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PASSPORT TO KNOWLEDGE - To MARS with MER NEW VIEWS
May 1, 2004
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PASSPORT TO KNOWLEDGE is very grateful to Mark Adler, Morten Bo Madsen, Virginia Ford, Todd Barber and Eric Rice from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory; Patrick Whelley, Amy Knudson, Steve Ruff, and Laura Mehall from Arizona State University; Jascha Sohl-Dickstein from Cornell University; and Shih-Han Chen, Maciej Hermanowicz, and Courtney Dressing from the JPL Student Astronauts for generously contributing their time and knowledge to support this unique service.

Building the Mars Exploration Rovers,   Mars Exploration Rovers,
Careers in Space Science,   Future Missions to Mars,
Past Missions to Mars,   Getting to Mars,
Life on Mars,   Opportunity,   Mars, the planet,
   Spirit,   Water on Mars,   Student Astronaut

Building the Mars Exploration Rovers

Question:
From: Michael Ramsey, 8th grade, Charleston Middle School, Charleston, IL

How long did it take to build a rover like Spirit to be able to operate perfectly?

Answer:
Howdy, Michael.

Thanks for your great question! Spirit and Opportunity took about 12-18 months to build, which sounds like a long time. However, this mission was actually incredibly rushed by interplanetary standards! It was a sprint all the way, Michael! We had on-going testing with rovers somewhat similar to the MER rovers, but the true flight articles were built in record time. This process included a lot of testing, of course, to make sure they would operate properly on the Martian surface. Thanks for a great question!

Expert:
Todd Barber
JPL Staff Propulsion Engineer
Mars Exploration Rover Mission
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Question:
From: Chelsea Coartney, 8th grade, Charleston Middle School, Charleston, IL

What challenges did you have building the rovers?

Answer:
Hi, Chelsea.

Thanks for a wonderful question!

The short answer is all of them! :-) This mission had the distinction of having a very fast turn-around time, which led to many challenges. The software the rovers need to drive themselves on the Martian surface wasn't ready until well after launch, for example! We also had to figure out to fit a rover much larger than Sojourner inside essentially the same landed tetrahedron (pyramid) volume. As the landed mass increased, also, the parachute and airbag designs had to be modified. This was particularly true after some noteworthy catastrophic parachute and airbag failures during pre-launch testing. I could go on and on, but I hope this gives you a flavor of the some of the complexity and struggle involved.

Thanks for a wonderful question!

Expert:
Todd Barber
JPL Staff Propulsion Engineer
Mars Exploration Rover Mission
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Question:
Two questions ... did you put any audio microphones on the lander for sound?

Answer:
No... we didn't. Some people are thinking about putting some on the Mars Science Laboratory, but they would be for testing the wind speed. That is still far off though.

Expert:
Patrick Whelley
Graduate Student
Arizona State University

Question:
In preparing the insulation and heaters for the rovers, what are the coldest and warmest temperatures you expect on Mars during this mission?

Answer:
The global average temperature ranges from approximately -5 deg C (20 deg F) in the day to about -85 deg C (-120 deg F) in the night. However, as the rovers were near the equator of Mars, the temperatures were slightly higher than expected.
CHEN, Shih-Han

Expert:
Shih-Han Chen
Student Astronaut

Question:
What is the rock abrasion tool made of?

Answer:
Thanks for your great question! The Rock Abrasion Tool is a powerful grinder, able to create a hole 45 millimeters (about 2 inches) in diameter and 5 millimeters (0.2 inches) deep into a rock on the Martian surface.

The RAT is located on the arm of the rover and weighs less than 720 grams (about 1.6 lbs). It uses three electric motors to drive rotating grinding teeth into the surface of a rock. Two grinding wheels rotate at high speeds. These wheels also rotate around each other at a much slower speed so that the two grinding wheels sweep the entire cutting area. The RAT is able to grind through hard volcanic rock in about two hours.

Once a fresh surface is exposed, scientists can examine the abraded area in detail using the rover's other science instruments. This means that the interior of a rock may be very different from its exterior. That difference is important to scientists as it may reveal how the rock was formed and the environmental conditions in which it was altered. A rock sitting on the surface of Mars may become covered with dust and will weather, or change in chemical composition from contact with the atmosphere.

The grinding material in the RAT is actually diamond, the hardest substance known. There are multiple layers of diamond to allow for months of grinding on the Martian surface.

Thanks for a terrific question!

Todd J. Barber
MER Propulsion Engineer

Expert:
Todd Barber
JPL Staff Propulsion Engineer
Mars Exploration Rover Mission
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Question:
Are plastics or other light-weight material used to make the MER Rovers?

Answer:
Thanks for your excellent question! There are places in the MER rovers where plastics are used. I'm pretty confident the cable covering and insulation, for example, is made of plastic. However, the "record-holder" on MER for light-weight material is aerogel, the least dense solid in the world! It is used in the rover Warm Electronics Box (WEB) to keep Spirit and Opportunity toasty warm during the frigid Martian night. Aerogel is silicon dioxide (like sand or quartz), whipped up with air, like a silicon souffle. It is a uniform substance (not hollow), and it is a tremendous thermal insulator, especially for its weight. The impetus to keep rover weight low was there, though largely for the requirement to get the entire spacecraft launched to Mars, rather than for surface mobility reasons. Thanks for your awesome question!

Todd J. Barber
MER Propulsion Engineer

Expert:
Todd Barber
JPL Staff Propulsion Engineer
Mars Exploration Rover Mission
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Mars Exploration Rovers

Question:
What is the working lifespan of the rovers?

Answer:
The main limiting factor in the rovers' ability to continue functioning is how dust collects on the solar arrays, and reduces the amount of electricity that they can generate.

The expected lifespan of the rovers was 90 sols (1 sol is a Martian day, or 24 hours and 40 minutes in Earth time). They have both so far exceeded expectations, and the team currently expects that they will be able to function well until September (more than 200 sols).

--Eric

Expert:
Eric Rice
Mission Control Team
Mars Exploration Rover Mission
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Question:
What do you think the major cause for the end of the mission will be?

Answer:
It's very hard to know what may lead to the end of mission.

The common effect that the team has traditionally looked for has been diminishing power return, with dust collecting on the solar arrays. Models of that process predicted a mission life of 90 Sols, and have so far been shown to be inaccurate. As we continue to explore Mars, dust will continue to accumulate, and we will have to operate with less and less power, using less of rovers' functionality as time goes on. While it's possible that power will still end up being the major limiting factor of the mission, it is also important to consider that we are now operating rovers well past their designed lifetime.

If you take a look at many of the deep space orbiters in the past, what has tended to happen is that one system or another will start to fail from the stresses of the harsh environments they're exploring. That system will be turned off, and operations will continue around it, until so many of the spacecraft's systems have failed that the goals of the mission can no longer be pursued.

So, it really is hard to say that there will be one major cause of the end of the mission. If I had to choose one thing to say, though, I would say "environmental stresses."

--Eric

Expert:
Eric Rice
Mission Control Team
Mars Exploration Rover Mission
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Question:
How long did it take to truck the spacecraft from California to Florida? How many people and what type of special equipment was involved?

Answer:
Thanks for your excellent question! I couldn't find this information on the MER website, so I started emailing some friends working with me on MER. Finally, I heard from the head of ATLO (Assembly, Test, Launch, and Operations) for the spacecraft, including the trips to Florida. It actually took three one-way trips total to get all the MER hardware from California to Florida, a distance of roughly 2600 miles. This took about 53-58 hours per trip, which averages out to a speed of 45-49 mph. I did not find out how many people accompanied the caravan, but I imagine it was a dozen or two. There was special equipment involved in transport, though. One thing typically used for such trips is air conditioning for the spacecraft, above and beyond the normal A/C in your car, for example. I imagine there's some vibration supression as well, though if it can't handle a cross-country trip, it probably can't tolerate the rigors of a Delta II launch! Thanks for a very thought-provoking question.

Todd J. Barber
MER Propulsion Engineer

Expert:
Todd Barber
JPL Staff Propulsion Engineer
Mars Exploration Rover Mission
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Question:
How high must the internal temperature of the rover be to keep it functioning?

Answer:
Thanks for your excellent question! For most of the electronics in the Warm Electronics Box (WEB), the minimum allowable flight temperature is -40 degrees Celsius. This happens to be the point at which deg. C equals deg. F, so this also corresponds to -40 deg. F. For the battery, the min allowable flight temperature limit is warmer, at -20 deg. C (or -4 deg. F). This is a challenge durning the cold Martian nights (hundreds of degrees below zero!), but our well-insulated WEB allows these internal temperature limits to be met. Thanks for your awesome question!

Todd J. Barber MER Propulsion Engineer

Expert:
Todd Barber
JPL Staff Propulsion Engineer
Mars Exploration Rover Mission
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Question:
To what extent will each rover operate autonomously compared to commands sent from the JPL mission team?

Mr. McCollum's 8th grade class
Charleston Middle School
Charleston, IL

Answer:
Mr McCollum et al,

There are levels of autonomous operation built into the mission design. At the highest level, everything the rovers do is commanded by JPL, but at lower levels, the rovers can execute a large series of commands, and do some decision making, without human interaction.

The way the rovers operate you can think of in terms of your standard PC. On the rovers, we have "flight software" that handles most of the basic tasks. That's the operating system. Then we send up bundles of commands, or "sequences," that tell the rovers what tasks we want them to carry out, kind of like the program you run in your operating system.

Every day, the science and engineering teams look at the data sent back by the rovers. The science teams take what they are seeing, and plan out what science they would like to do next. The engineering team takes those science goals, and plans out how each rover will take the requested measurements, and how to keep it safe and healthy while doing so. They then build the sequences, and we send those up.

The rovers execute the full sequence of activities without much if any intervention from the operations teams. Most of the day, we're not even watching how things are going, and then we get the data down after everything has been done. The sequences may also call for autonomous decision making built into the flight software, like asking for a drive using auto navigation. The rover will take that and, within the bounds we set for it, do what it needs to do to accomplish the task.

I hope that answers it for you. Thanks for the question!

--Eric

Expert:
Eric Rice
Mission Control Team
Mars Exploration Rover Mission
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Question:
Do you think that one machine will last more sols than the other?

Answer:
It's likely that one rover will last longer than the other. They are both operating in different environments on Mars, and are subject to somewhat different stresses and wear. They are also performing somewhat different tasks, which will make a difference in the end how quickly parts wear out.

Thanks for the question!

--Eric

Expert:
Eric Rice
Mission Control Team
Mars Exploration Rover Mission
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Question:
From: Chris Ferguson, 8th grade, Charleston Middle School, Charleston, IL

What were some of the most recent discoveries as Spirit and Opportunity completed their main missions?

Answer:
By looking at the rocks in the craters we have discovered that a shallow salty lake existed there for some time. We are not sure how long it was present. It is believed (but not proven) that the water has all evaporated and escaped from the gravity field of Mars. What is exciting is that the presence of water for some time may mean that primitive bacteria-like life may have been present on Mars. We need to evaluate more rocks from different periods of time to get a better picture of the history of the water. Some of the other, deeper craters that are near Spirit and Opportunity seem to have older rocks exposed that may give more information. The risk of climbing down into those craters is being evaluated.

Expert:
Virginia Ford
Principal Engineer
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Question:
How much longer do you think the solar panels will last? Why do you think they have lasted this long?

Answer:
The solar panels were designed to last for three months, but we always try to design so that we have margin. When you evaluate the life of a component, you think about what things could happen to make this device fail. In aerospace engineering, we are always trying to work at an extremely high level of reliability. That is because, once a system is launched, we can rarely go fix anything that fails. So we always design so that if the worst case situation we think of occurs we will survive. One of the main reasons that we thought the solar panels would fail is that we thought they might become coated with Mars dust. We didn't know much about how the dust works - what will attract it or what will repel it? is it rough and skratchy so that it would damage the solar cells if we try to brush or blow dust off. We just didn't know what would work best to keep the important surfaces clean. So we decided the best approach would be to do little, with an attempt at avoiding protrusions which would collect dust. So to finally answer your question, the solar panels have lasted this long because the dust isn't as nasty as we thought it might be. They look like they will last quite a lot longer because the power they are supplying is still strong. Of course, we cannot predict when some other event might cause failure. A wire might break, a storm could blow a rock onto a rover, an electrical part might fail. Hopefully, our plan to design to overcome the worst case we can imagine will enable both rovers to continue sending us wonderful data for another three months or longer!

Expert:
Virginia Ford
Principal Engineer
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Question:
If you were to repeat this mission again, what would you change?

Answer:
I would change the instruments. All the engineering functions have worked perfectly, so I would try to keep them as they are as much as possible. The engineering functions include everything that made landing possible, the communications system and antenna, the power supply (solar cells and batteries), the structure, wheels and motors of the rovers, and the electronics that drive the motion and control the rover functions. Also part of the engineering functions are the six cameras on the rover that provide engineering data - the hazcams and the navcams. The hazard cams look all around the wheels for hazards that might cause a rover to tip over. The navcams look around at the scenery to help decide what to navigate to next. So that leaves the instruments that collect science data. If we were going to repeat this mission, we would want to collect different science data so we could learn more. The process to select the new instruments would be very competitive with scientist teams from all over the world proposing different ideas. It is fun to read all of their ideas to see what neat instruments they would develop to collect data to understand and learn things about Mars. You can tell that I am an engineer because I get excited about the instruments. Scientists get excited about the data.

Expert:
Virginia Ford
Principal Engineer
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Question:
My kids, Alexandra and Hannah, wanted to know if the Rovers can hear the sounds on Mars. What do the winds sound like? Has there ever been a robot on Mars that could hear sound? Thanks!

Answer:
These rovers cannot hear sounds on Mars, and there haven't been rovers on Mars that could. Sound is caused by the vibration of air, and though the Martian atmosphere is much much thinner than ours on Earth, there would be enough vibration through the air to carry sound waves. To sense this, you would need to develop an instrument that would sense vibration and change that vibration to an electrical signal which could be transmitted back into a sound after being sent home to earth. It would be like a microphone and a speaker that makes sound come out of a radio. All the science instruments included on the rovers were carefully selected to make sure we would collect data that could be used to learn as much as possible about whether Mars once had water on its surface. Perhaps a later mission will use sound sensing to collect important data. It is something to think about!

Expert:
Virginia Ford
Principal Engineer
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Question:
What are the chances of Spirit rover encountering a dust devil and what would be the result of that?

Answer:
Thanks for your excellent question! We hope the chances are very good for both Spirit and Opportunity encountering a dust devil during the landed mission. In fact, we allow some time during the occasional Martian day ("Sol") to look for dust devils. Mars Pathfinder did see evidence of a dust devil during its three-month mission. The result of encountering a dust devil for Spirit or Opportunity would be two-fold. First off, it would be a scientific boon, helping us to understand these transient weather phenomena in the entirely different environment of the Martian atmosphere. Second, and I think this is the genesis of your question, nothing bad would happen to the rovers at all, even if a dust devil crossed right over the rover! Though Mars has enormous dust devils by Earthly standards, the Mars atmosphere is very thin and tenuous. This means the force of the Martian wind during a dust devil passage is very low, indeed. Thanks again for a wonderful question!

Todd J. Barber
MER Propulsion Engineer

Expert:
Todd Barber
JPL Staff Propulsion Engineer
Mars Exploration Rover Mission
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Question:
I read that the MER solar cells operate with less than 50% efficiency. Is it possible to develop solar power with a greater efficiency? What is the future for solar energy on Mars? On Earth? Do you anticipate the use of solar power on Mars to be greater than on Earth?

Answer:
The 50% efficiency of the solar panels on the MER rovers right now, is a reduction of 50% from their initial efficiency. Dust is accumulating on the surface of the solar panels, and there is nothing that can be done to remove it. However, the performance will continue to provide us enough power for a while longer. If all goes well, and the rovers continue to work well past their intended lifetimes, we will be able to last the winter when the sun is too low to give enough energy for good power, and be able to do more in the Spring when the sun starts to return to a favorable position in the sky.

Solar power is a wonderful technology, but it is fundamentally limited by the efficiency of the materials used to tap the sun’s energy. Crystalline silicon is the most efficient material we have found so far, and it only captures 15% of the available energy in sunlight. Other materials are being explored for solar technologies, but most of them only capture about 8% of the total solar energy. There is always the possibility that more efficient materials can be found, or that better ways of optimizing the solar sensitive materials can be found.

The future of solar energy on Earth is good. As non-renewable energy sources such as petroleum become more scarce, it is going to get more expensive to use. Right now solar cells are very expensive, but mostly that is because they are not produced in large quantities. Once the demand rises for solar systems, they will become much cheaper to produce. Earth is much closer to the sun than Mars, so solar power is a much more viable alternative for us here. On Mars during the winter the sun is very far away, and the power available is small. NASA is looking into using radioactive power sources for some future missions on the surface of Mars. These power sources were used on the Viking landers on Mars in the 1970s and allowed them to function for many years. Solar power has been used on almost all of the orbiting satellites we send into space, and should continue to be used because solar power is very reliable, and there is little dust or other materials in space to coat the panels and degrade their performance over time.

Expert:
Amy Knudson
Graduate Research Assistant
Arizona State University

Question:
The MER rovers are much larger than the Pathfinder rover, yet they launched on the same Delta II rocket. How did you manage to launch Spirit and Opportunity with the same rocket as Pathfinder?

Answer:
Unfortunately, I did not work on the launching system for the MER program so I don't know all the details of the decisions that were made when chosing the launch vehicle for Spirit and Opportunity. I do know that every mission trajectory is carefully analyzed and evaluated so that just the right amount of force sends the rockets in the correct direction. Also, each launch rocket has a range of mass that it can lift. Many things influence what mass can be lifted by a rocket including, how much fuel is loaded into the rocket, exactly how the rocket needs to leave Earth's gravity - what direction and how fast, and how well the spacecraft is balanced inside the rocket. I also know that Pathfinder went to Mars when Mars was farther away than it was for Spirit and Opportunity. So the same size rocket was probably a good choice, even though Pathfinder wasn't as heavy as either of the MER rovers.

Expert:
Virginia Ford
Principal Engineer
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Question:
How can the infrared camera tell if a rock has been formed by contact with water?

Answer:
The infrared spectrometer, Mini-TES, tells us the minerals that are present in the rocks. Minerals are the building blocks of rocks, if you pick up a piece of rock sometimes you can see the individual mineral grains. In a granite for instance, you usually see pink, clear, and black crystals, each of these is a different mineral – usually Feldspars are pink, Quartz in the clear, and a whole variety of minerals are black. When we look at the infrared signature of rocks, we see distinctive patterns that tell us which minerals are in a rock. Certain minerals form in volcanic rocks, and others form if that rock has been in contact with water. So what we are looking for are specific minerals that only form in the presence of water.

Careers in Space Science

Question:
Dear Sir, Madam,
First of all I want to congratulate you all with this big achievement. My name is Thomas Aksan, and I am from The Netherlands. I am very much interested into space and this year I have to do a thesis. I am stuying msc in management but I do not even know if you need people with this background. I also hold a bachelors in Informatics. This is a bit informal way of finding out whether I can apply for an internship or not.
Yours Sincerely,
Thomas Aksan

Answer:
Thomas,

First, thank you for your compliments. We always appreciate the interest and thoughts of the public!

As for your inquiry, the best way to go about looking into jobs and internships here is through our Human Relations department. They can best help you find out where there might be openings, and what you would need to do to pursue one.

Start with JPL's Carrer Launch website, and investigate from there:

http://careerlaunch.jpl.nasa.gov/

--Eric

Expert:
Eric Rice
Mission Control Team
Mars Exploration Rover Mission
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Future Mission to Mars

Question:
From: Brigitte Reeley, 8th grade, Charleston Middle School, Charleston, IL

Why will it take so long to prepare to send humans to Mars?

Answer:
It takes a very long time to get to Mars - our rovers took 7 months to make the trip, and that was just going one way. The astronauts would have to survive for a couple years cooped up in their spaceship. They would have to bring all the food and air and water they were going to need with them. No one has ever lived for that long in a completely closed environment (except for the Earth), and if something went wrong there would be no way to get help to them. The first challenge is making a ship that people can live in for years without any help from the outside.

The second challenge is taking off again after you land on Mars. There are lots of people who would volunteer for a one way trip to Mars, but we wouldn't send anyone if we weren't sure we could bring them back again. It takes a lot of energy to get into space from the surface of a planet. On Earth, we have whole industries making rocket engines and fuel tanks and fuel. On Mars, you would either have to bring all that stuff with you from Earth, or make it on Mars. Having the few astronauts make the rocket fuel on Mars with just the equipment they can bring with them would be very difficult. Bringing all the fuel they would need to take off again with them from earth is *really* expensive. You don't just need to carry the extra fuel - you need to carry the extra fuel it takes to lift the extra fuel off of the Earth, and the extra fuel it takes to land it gently on Mars, and the extra fuel it takes to lift the extra fuel you need to land the extra fuel gently on Mars off of Earth. Etc etc.

On top of those problems, you have to worry about shielding against hard radiation once you leave the Earth's protective magnetic field. You need to worry about the astronauts muscles atrophying while they spend months in 0-g. You need to worry about astronauts going stir crazy and getting on each other's nerves during the trip.

So - there are a lot of very hard, and very exciting, problems that need to be solved to send humans to Mars. It will be decades before we've licked all of them. Many of them are being worked on as we complete the International Space Station, and try to put people on the Moon.

-jascha

Expert:
Jascha Sohl-Dickstein
Imaging
Cornell University

Question:
I am wondering why NASA/JPL doesn't put a rover on the polar caps to make the determination about water or other frozen fluids.

Answer:
In 1999 the polar lander failed to land on the south pole of mars. In 2007 the Phoenix Lander will land on the north pole of Mars http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/ (for more on that mission).

Spirit and Opportunity didn't land there because they were designed to drive in a warmer climate. The landing system ( airbags and parachutes) required that we land them through a thick portion of the atmosphere. The poles are just too cold and have too thin an atmosphere to land Spirit or Opportunity.

It is hard to land on the poles.

Expert:
Patrick Whelley
Graduate Student
Arizona State University

Question:
Has NASA considered making a rover that can dig through the crust of Mars to find liquid water under the surface?

Answer:
Let me clarify something. The "crust" is hugely thick on Mars. Like more than a Kilometer thick. We don't have the capability to dig like that on Earth so we are way off from that kind of thing on Mars.

But we have had landers that can Dig. The viking landers had arms that could dig, as will the Phoenix lander on 2007. We can dig a little with Spirit and Opportunity, but none of the digging is more than 10s of cms. Some people want to put a shovel on the Mars Science Laboratory, but that is to be determined.

Expert:
Patrick Whelley
Graduate Student
Arizona State University

Question:
From: Jon Winans, 8th grade, Charleston Middle School, Charleston, IL

Do you think that future scientists will be able to change the atmosphere on Mars to support life?

Answer:
Jon,
I think that it is unlikely that we will be able to change the atmosphere on Mars to support life. It is probable that Mars once had a thick atmosphere which kept the surface warm enough for liquid water and life. The reason that we think the atmosphere on Mars is so thin today is that the core of the planet has cooled to a point where it has stopped convecting (or actively flowing) which means that Mars does not have a magnetic field. What could a magnetic field do for a planet? It protects the atmosphere from being stripped away by the constant flow of charged particles from the sun. Since the planet doesn’t have this magnetic safety net around the atmosphere those solar particles continually hit the atmosphere and remove it. This is a process that I don’t think we’ll be able to stop, and the scale of that problem is too big for any conceivable technology.

There is always hope that we’ll advance to a point in the future where we could do something to stop these processes or at least replace what atmosphere gets stripped away every year, but in the shorter term future I think that it is more likely that people would just figure out a way to make structures on the surface or underground to live in rather than changing the whole planet.

Expert:
Amy Knudson
Graduate Research Assistant
Arizona State University

Question:
From: Mike Pritschet, 8th grade, Charleston Middle School, Charleston, IL

When is NASA going to send humans to Mars?

Answer:
We don't know yet. It will almost certainly be several decades, at least, before we send humans to Mars. There are several things on our plate to finish before then. We plan to complete the International Space Station. We also hope to return to the moon and establish an extended human presence there. There are more robotic vehicles in the pipeline as well to pave the way for human explorers. These missions range from rovers like the ones on Mars now (but, able to do more, and travel farther and more quickly) to ones which will actually launch samples of Mars all the way back to Earth.

Expert:
Jascha Sohl-Dickstein
Imaging
Cornell University

Past Mission to Mars

Question:
Hello!
My name is Avshalom Sadoun and i'm 13 years old from Israel. i would like to ask, what happened to the Pathfinder mission and Sojourner rover that sent to mars in 1997. do you still getting pictures and signal from them? thank you and good luck with the Spirit and Opportunity mission.

Answer:
Pathfinder was last heard from on September 25, 1997 when its batteries died. The lander and the rover remain on the Martian surface.

Getting to Mars

Question:
Why does it take so long to travel to Mars? I understand that Mars is a long distance away, but is the length of time dependent on the fuel in the rocket or the current propulsion system? Is there another type of propulsion system or fuel that would make this trip shorter?

Answer:
To get to mars we have to slowly get in the same orbital path as Mars and be traveling at about the same speed as mars (around the sun). So we can't fly in a straight line.

It would require a lot more fuel to fly in a straight line to Mars because you would have to slow down once you got there.

So it is both the fuel and the preposition system. NASA is working on new kinds of propulsion systems and new methods for getting there, these will be important is we want to send people. No reliable system is ready yet though.

Expert:
Patrick Whelley
Graduate Student
Arizona State University

Life on Mars

Question:
One of my students would like to know if you have found evidence that life has existed or does exist on Mars.

Answer:
No, not yet. What we have found at Opportunity's landing site in the Meridiani Planum region of Mars is that once a very long time ago, there was a significant amount liquid water. That means that there was a place that life could have lived. Future missions will try to determine if in fact there has ever been life on Mars.

Expert:
Mark Adler
Mars Exploration Rover Spirit Mission Manager
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Question:
Is it possible to put life from Earth on Mars, such as an extremophile, and have it survive? If it is, what type would you choose?

Answer:
Extremophiles!

Well, on Earth we do have a lot of interesting life forms and some that are able to live , and thrive, off some very harsh and strange environments. Some live in very acidic environments, some in very basic, some in extremely cold temperatures, others in super hot. The thing that all of these have in common is that they need water. Most of them need enough liquid water so that they can swim. However there are smaller life forms, bacteria and slimes, that might be able to make the switch.

When a space craft is being built to go to Mars we take a lot of precautions to make sure that we don't leave any bacteria or anything on the space craft that would infect Mars. It is a concern.

But I would never think of taking a life form from earth and releasing it on Mars. We would never be able to know for sure if Mars had life for its self. So keep Mars Martian!

Expert:
Patrick Whelley
Graduate Student
Arizona State University

Opportunity

Question:
From: Melissa Smith, 8th grade, Charleston Middle School, Charleston, IL

Why and how did you decide to send Opportunity to the Meridiani Planum?

Answer:
Dear Melissa,

NASA has a long term goal of trying to find the origin of life. This is not simple, and there are many different places to look. The reason Earth is not so good is that the oldest rocks on Earth, that may have contained traces of the very first life, has been remelted because the continents of Earth floats on the surface and are subducted here and there. The oldest rocks we know of on Earth are 3.8 billion years old - and the Solar System and the Earth formed 4.6 billion years ago. But, for example on Mars, we know that there are very old rocks still to be found (a 4.5 billion years old Martian meteorite has fallen on Antarctica) so to find good places to look, first we try to find places where water may once have been abundant. And this is the reason Meridiani Planum was chosen as landing site for Opportunity and Gusev Crater for Spirit. On Meridiani instruments flown on Mars Global Surveyor and Mars Odyssey had found a mineral hematite that it was thought may have formed in water. There are also other possibilities for formation of hematite, but after investigating the "blueberries" found abundantly on the plains of Meridiani we have found that these contain a mixture of the minerals hematite and jarosite, which is best explained by formation in water. This was not the form in which we had expected to find the hematite, but often nature turns out to be much more interesting and surprising than we imagined.

The way we decided to go to Meridiani Planum was through a series of workshops in which anybody interested could participate, not only members of the Mars Exploration Rover team. These meetings were organized by Matt Golombek and John Grant and through these meetings the number of desired landing sites was reduced and at the last meeting only 4 remained. The two with the hightest scores were Meridiani Planum and Gusev Crater. It was up to the deputy director of NASA, Ed Weiler to make the final decision based on the recommendations of the scientists who had participated on the landing site workshops.

Expert:
Morten Bo Madsen
Associate Professor
Niels Bohr Institute for Astronomy, Physics and Geophysics
Center for Planetary Science and Ørsted Laboratory
University of Copenhagen,

Mars, the Planet

Question:
From: Zach Werling, 8th grade, Charleston Middle School, Charleston, IL

Out of all of the planets in our solar system, why did you pick Mars for the rover missions?

Answer:
Mars is the most Earth-like of all of the planets, and appears to have had a past similar to Earth's past. We believe that it is possible for life to have originated and thrived on Mars at that time, and so we would like to learn about how life might have started on Earth by learning how it happened on Mars. Much of the evidence of that early time has been preserved on Mars, unlike on Earth, since Mars is a less active planet and has a less active environment. In addition to Mars telling us about our past, Mars may be a part of our future. Mars is the only planet in our solar system that has the resources required to support humans without resupply from Earth, most significantly water. If humans ever live on another planet in this solar system, it will most likely be Mars. These reasons are why Mars among all the planets outside of Earth seems to captivate our attention.

Expert:
Mark Adler
Mars Exploration Rover Spirit Mission Manager
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Question:
From: Jordyn Gandolfi, 8th grade, Charleston Middle School, Charleston, IL

How do dust storms form on Mars?

Answer:
This is a really good question. It was thought for a little while that dust storms where started by dust devils. Dust devils are small tornado like vortices that pick up a lot of dust and put it in to the atmosphere. So it was thought that there was an increase in the dust devil activity and that started the dust storms. This is not actually the case. At leased we don;t think so any more.

The real answer is still a mystery, but it has a lot to do with an increase in wind speeds and atmospheric pressure. There may not be a single thing that we can point to and blame for starting the dust storms. But they are interesting to say the leased.

Expert:
Patrick Whelley
Graduate Student
Arizona State University

Question:
Can you explain the difference between the gravity here on Earth to the gravity of Mars?

Answer:
The gravity on the surface of Mars is 38 percent of that at the surface of Earth. The reason for exactly this value is that Mars is only a tenth of the mass of Earth. Mars is also smaller in volume - it has roughly half the diameter of Earth. Therefore, when on the surface of Mars one is closer to the center of gravity of Mars and these two facts together: a tenth of the mass and half the distance to the center makes up the 38 percent.

More quantitatively, the force of gravity between two objects is given by the universal constant of gravity G multiplied by the mass of one object times the mass of the second object divided by the square of the distance between the centers of mass of both objects. If you look up the exact numbers and enter these in the equation you will see for yourself.

Morten.

Expert:
Morten Bo Madsen
Associate Professor
Niels Bohr Institute for Astronomy, Physics and Geophysics
Center for Planetary Science and Ørsted Laboratory
University of Copenhagen,

Question:
How do dust storms get started?

Answer:
This is a really good question. It was thought for a little while that dust storms where started by dust devils. Dust devils are small tornado like vortices that pick up a lot of dust and put it in to the atmosphere. So it was thought that there was an increase in the dust devil activity and that started the dust storms. This is not actually the case. At leased we don;t think so any more.

The real answer is still a mystery, but it has a lot to do with an increase in wind speeds and atmospheric pressure. There may not be a single thing that we can point to and blame for starting the dust storms. But they are interesting to say the leased.

Expert:
Patrick Whelley
Graduate Student
Arizona State University

Spirit

Question:
From: Melissa Smith, 8th grade, Charleston Middle School, Charleston, IL

Why and how did you decide to send Spirit to the Gusev Crater?

Answer:
We have sent several orbiters to Mars, most notably the Viking, Mars Global Surveyor, and Odyssey missions. They have found many places on Mars that appear to have features that were cut by flowing water a long time ago. We wanted to land Spirit in one of those places. We had to find one that was big enough to land in, at least 60 or so miles across based on how well we can aim, that was near the equator so that we would have enough solar power, and that was smooth enough that we could land safely. We found all of that in Gusev Crater. Gusev has a large channel that cuts into it from the South that suggests at one time Gusev Crater was filled with water. The North rim of the crater has a break in it, indicating that that was where the water eventually flowed back out again. The crater is about 100 miles across, is flat, and has a low enough concentration of rocks that we could land safely. Many other landing sites were considered, but Gusev Crater for Spirit and Meridiani Planum for Opportunity were the ones that won.

Expert:
Mark Adler
Mars Exploration Rover Spirit Mission Manager
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Question:
From: Michael Ramsey, 8th grade, Charleston Middle School, Charleston, IL

How long did it take to build a rover like Spirit to be able to operate perfectly?

Answer:
Howdy, Michael.

Thanks for your great question!

Spirit and Opportunity took about 12-18 months to build, which sounds like a long time. However, this mission was actually incredibly rushed by interplanetary standards! It was a sprint all the way, Michael! We had on-going testing with rovers somewhat similar to the MER rovers, but the true flight articles were built in record time. This process included a lot of testing, of course, to make sure they would operate properly on the Martian surface.

Thanks for a great question!

Expert:
Todd Barber
JPL Staff Propulsion Engineer
Mars Exploration Rover Mission
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Question:
Dear Scientists:
Our 5 year old would like to know: when Spirit landed, how high was the highest bounce, and how far did it go from the first touchdown point to where Spirit finally came to rest? Thanks for your help, his name is Devlin.

Answer:
Delvin, Spirit bounced as high as 4 story building on her first bounce. then there where more than 20 smaller bounces before finally stopping, more than 3 football fields away.

Expert:
Patrick Whelley
Graduate Student
Arizona State University

Question:
On this website, Spirit's landing is described as risky. What made Spirit's landing so "risky"?
From Tyler

Answer:
Thanks, Tyler, for your awesome question! Well, I think the best way to understand what made the landing of Spirit and Opportunity so risky is to watch the nine-minute animated video. The "six minutes of terror" between Martian atmospheric entry (at 12000 mph!) and landing (near 0 mph) is incredibly complex. Dozens and dozens of pyrotechnic charges have to fire at precisely the right time, and the Martian atmosphere and surface features have to "cooperate" as well, Tyler. A Viking-derived heat shield slows the landed package from about 12000 mph to about 1200 mph. A supersonic parachute must then deploy, followed by release of the backshell, rapelling down the bridle, inflating airbags, firing solid rocket motors, cutting the bridle, and impact. Actually, Spirit and Opportunity impacted the surface 26 and 28 times each, respectively, due to (planned) bouncing of the airbag-encased lander! I hope I've given you a sense of the complexity involved, but the video really conveys the "six minutes of terror" best. Also, Tyler, it's worth mentioning that we've only landed successfully on Mars three times (in twelve attempts!), so it is still very new to us. Thanks for your great question!

Todd J. Barber
MER Propulsion Engineer

Expert:
Todd Barber
JPL Staff Propulsion Engineer
Mars Exploration Rover Mission
Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Question:
How different do you think the rocks in the Columbia Hills will be from the rocks scattered around Spirit now?

Answer:
The Columbia Hills are a unit that is older than the plains we are currently driving around on. We know that by looking at the relationship between the rocks on the plains and the hills in pictures from orbiting spacecraft. This means that those hills may show us evidence of things that happened in Gusev crater before the plains were deposited. They are likely to be the very same type of rock as the plains - made from lava flows or volcanic eruptions. Even if they are the same they could be eroded by fluvial, lacustrine, glacial, or aeolian processes and could tell us the history of Gusev crater.

Expert:
Amy Knudson
Graduate Research Assistant
Arizona State University

Water on Mars

Question:
From: Emily Reid, 8th grade, Charleston Middle School, Charleston, IL

If there was water on Mars at one time, what could have happened to it?

Answer:
Dear Emily,

Now, we are sure that there was once water on Mars: On Meridiani Planum we found rocks containing a mineral, jarosite, that precipitate from acid waters. In the same rocks we found chlorine and bromine, remnants of a salty sea and we found textures (shapes and patterns in the way grains were once laid down) in these rocks that show experts that these rocks formed in moving water. We still do not know exactly what happened to it. A little of the water is bound in minerals, probably all over the Martian surface. In fact jarosite also contains a few percent of water. And we do know that there is still much (very much) water on Mars closer to the poles - this is bound below the surface as permafrost and as ice in the polar caps. Some water has been lost because Mars does not have a protective planetary magnetic field as Earth. This means that charged particles from the Sun "attacks" the atmosphere from above and "shoots out" water molecules. Also both ultraviolet radiation and these particles from the Sun is able to split water molecules and this makes it easier for them to escape the Martian atmosphere.

Morten

Expert:
Morten Bo Madsen
Associate Professor
Niels Bohr Institute for Astronomy, Physics and Geophysics
Center for Planetary Science and Ørsted Laboratory
University of Copenhagen,

Question:
From: Delicia Williams, 8th grade, Charleston Middle School, Charleston, IL

If scientists do find water and signs of life on Mars, what will happen next?

Answer:
This is something that those of us on the MER science team sit around and talk about a lot. It will certainly change the way we look at life on Earth, to know that it is some place els too. It will certainly push us to bee more focused on getting samples of Mars back to Earth, or to send people to Mars.

If we find usable water, than we could use it to support human missions.

If we find signs of life than it will become important to understand where it came from and how much is there, and all of that means more money for more missions. It would be very exciting.

Expert:
Patrick Whelley
Graduate Student
Arizona State University

Question:
From: Rachel Brown, 8th grade, Charleston Middle School, Charleston, IL

If there are signs of past water on Mars, why is it not flowing now?

Answer:
Rachel,
This is a good question. Liquid water is currently not stable on the surface of Mars. It can exist as ice or as vapor, but the temperatures and air pressures are too low for liquid water. Any liquid water would evaporate or freeze if it were there today. How could water have been flowing on the surface of Mars a long time ago? We think that the climate on Mars was very different early in its history. There may have been a thick atmosphere, something like what we have on Earth today, and we think that the temperatures on the surface were higher, warm enough for liquid water to be stable. There is evidence for this in the channels we see cut into the surface, and now from these rovers, we see evidence of at least small bodies of water, like lakes, from the deposits in Meridiani Planum.

Expert:
Amy Knudson
Graduate Research Assistant
Arizona State University

Student Astronaut

Question:
What is it like to be a student astronaut?
-Kelsey

Answer:
I would say that being one of the student astronauts was a once in a life time experience.

As student astronauts, we had the unique privilege to work INSIDE the mission operations at the JPL during the time we are on duty. Well, what was more exciting than meeting all those mission scientists IN PERSON? Also, we were one of the first to know what was actually going on in the mission as project scientists regularly provided 'mini-lectures' of their ideas. Best of all, Abby, Wei-Lin, Vignan and I also had a personal talk on sundials from Bill Nye, the Science Guy.

We also had some 'hands-on' experience on image processing and analysis. We even made movie clips of the sundial shadow moving across the dial.

However, it is indeed hard work, as we had to work in irregular shifts. (It is like constantly having jet lag.) Sleep deprevation was quite common as you are constantly tired.

Watching the landing process inside the mission operations was also an unique experience. During the landing, we could all feel the tense atmosphere when the room fell silent. However, there was also the joy and happiness when Opportunity landed safely in Meridiani Planum. The landing was an extraordinary experience as we put ourselves in the mission scientists' shoe.

Anyway, the experience was extraordinary and everyone felt sad to leave on their last day. (Who wouldn't?) Personally, I believe the experience of a student astronaut is 'Hard Work, Great Fun'.
CHEN, Shih-Han

Expert:
Shih-Han Chen
Student Astronaut