[23
]
Live video feed & webchat
Rob, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
6:15AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[24 ]
Mike-I don't have cuseeme open at this
computer.
JenniferSellers: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:16AM PDT (-0700
GMT). . .
[25 ]
Sandy, the primary server is serving 14.4. Higher speeds can
still
receive
at 14.4 with very little degradation.
[Image]
Online
Help: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:16AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [26 ]
Whit-
were you receiving it and it just stopped or what
happened?
JenniferSellers: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:17AM PDT (-0700
GMT). . . [27 ]
MikeH, I think Chris Rowan is in DC, but I'm not
truly sure!
Whit: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:18AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[28 ]
I started up the RA player about 15 minutes ago but never
heard a
word.
Mike: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:19AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[29 ]
Jennifer Sellers, where are you?
Phil@Bates: . . . . Sat, Jul
20, 6:22AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [30 ]
hard to read graphic with
live video here
Online Help: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:22AM PDT (-0700
GMT). . . [31 ]
Whit-try closing down realaudio and restarting it
by clicking on the
14.4
link, the first one, on button
MikeH: . . . .
Sat, Jul 20, 6:22AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [32 ]
Jennefer, do you
know if everyone can see all the messages that we
send out?
Rob,
auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:23AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [33
]
We are reading them on a large video scren here.
Whit: . . . .
Sat, Jul 20, 6:24AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [34 ]
trouble must be at
my end, I restarted the RA player from the
primary source
and no
luck.
Mike: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:25AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [35
]
Hey D.C., The visuals, like the timeline, don't come through very
well.
One
idea for the future is that you could load these images as
GIFs on to
WebChat for clearer viewing.
JenniferSellers: . . . . Sat,
Jul 20, 6:25AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [36 ]
wolverine Mike: I'm in
Tucson, AZ.
JenniferSellers: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:26AM PDT (-0700
GMT). . . [37 ]
MikeH, there's no reason why everyone on this
WebChat shouldn't see
all your
messages and everyone else's. Is
that what you're asking?
Phil@Bates: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:26AM PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [38 ]
They are available on the pesentation
pagge, are they not?
Phil@Bates: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:27AM PDT (-
0700 GMT). . . [39 ]
ooops, the presentation webpage...
MikeH:
. . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:27AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [40 ]
Jennifer, did
you receive the last message? Our browser crashed
right after
I
sent it. Still looking for Chris Rowan. Is anyone in Washington
seeing
this?
JenniferSellers: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:27AM PDT (-0700
GMT). . . [41 ]
MIkeH. Oh, I see what you mean! Thanks for
answer,
Rob!
Online Help: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:27AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[42
]
Whit-what speed modem do you have?
Rob, auditorium: . . . .
Sat, Jul 20, 6:28AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [43 ]
Yes-all the
messages
are being presented on a large video screen to
all
our
teachers.
Michael81: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:28AM PDT (-0700
GMT). . . [44 ]
Gosh wo's here?
Whit: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:30AM
PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [45 ]
OnLine help 28.8 connection, seemed
irregular
last nite when I was
testing
with RA sites.
Michael81: . . . . Sat,
Jul 20, 6:30AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [46 ]
that animation is
teriffic
Rob, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:30AM PDT (-0700
GMT). . . [47 ]
Michael- you can click on who's here-we are in an
auditorium in DC
at NASA.
MikeH: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:31AM PDT (-
0700 GMT). . . [48 ]
Hello, Chris Rowan in Washington. This is
Mike
Henry in Boulder,CO
and
Gabriel Rshaid from Argentina is here with
me.
Rob, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:32AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[49 ]
There was someone from the Gulf-the other Gulf. Pretty
cool
animinations.
Whit: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:32AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[50 ]
Michael, Where are you gewtting the animation
from?
Online Help: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:32AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[51 ]
Whit-is your sound on your computer set at an appropriate
level?
How about
the sound level in realaudio?
Rob, auditorium: .
. . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:32AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [52
]
animations.
Mike@Univ.of KS.: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:32AM PDT (-
0700 GMT). . . [53
]
The audio was great when the presenters
were
talking, but the movie
keeps
fading in and out. What's going on?
Also...is it possible to get this
movie
to show in the
classroom?
Rob, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:33AM PDT (-0700
GMT). . . [54 ]
Some of it is pretty dark.
Rob, auditorium: . . . .
Sat,
Jul 20, 6:34AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [55 ]
We are checking on the
movie.
Mike@KU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:34AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[56
]
The audio issue is getting worse.
Rob, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul
20, 6:35AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [57 ]
They will be speaking later
about how to get the movie.
Rob, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
6:36AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [58 ]
We're checking on the
audio.
Whit: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:37AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [59
]
OnLine help Sorry to be such a bother. tried reconnecting but
"Server
is too
busy".
Rob, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:39AM
PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [60 ]
Mike and Gabriel-Chris is managing
our e-
mail station, but he sends
his
regards.
Sandy: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
6:40AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [61 ]
Help Desk: We cannot connect
to
the Real Audio server from the
activity
page. Instead, a download
starts from the 14.400 baud link. What am
I
doing
wrong?
Sandy: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:40AM PDT (-0700 GMT). .
. [62 ]
Help Desk: We cannot connect to the Real Audio server
from
the
activity
page. Instead, a download starts from the 14.400 baud
link. What am
I doing
wrong?
Mike@KU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:40AM
PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [63 ]
The audio is really rough...a lot of
static. It
might help to have the
speakers try to speak into the mic, and
speak clearer. Thanks!
Rob, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:40AM
PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [64 ]
This is how to order the video-contact
info@engmm.com or
www.engmm.com or
770-8394
MikeH: . . . .
Sat, Jul 20, 6:40AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [65 ]
Poor Chris, when
will
his chains be cut!
Online Help: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:41AM PDT (-0700
GMT). . . [66 ]
Sandy-what version of realaudio do you
have?
Rob, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:41AM PDT (-0700 GMT).
. . [67 ]
Let me correct that phone-770-993-
8384.
JenniferSellers: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:41AM PDT (-0700 GMT). .
. [68 ]
Mike@KU, what reflector are you using?
MikeH: . . . . Sat,
Jul 20, 6:42AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [69 ]
Is anyone out there
interested in talking about Mars Education?
Sandy: . . . . Sat, Jul
20, 6:42AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [70 ]
Help Desk: We cannot
connect
to the Real Audio server from the
activity
page. Instead, a
download starts from the 14.400 baud link. What am
I
doing
wrong?
Sandy: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:42AM PDT (-0700 GMT). .
. [71 ]
Help Desk: We cannot connect to the Real Audio server
from
the
activity
page. Instead, a download starts from the 14.400 baud
link. What am
I doing
wrong?
Mike@KU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:43AM
PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [72 ]
the D.C. reflector. What are you on? Is
it
clear
JenniferSellers: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:43AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[73 ]
MikeH, what speed are you using?
JenniferSellers: . . . .
Sat,
Jul 20, 6:46AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [74 ]
MIke@KU, You're on a
high-speed line, aren't you? What speed is it?
Mike@KU: . . . . Sat,
Jul 20, 6:46AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [75 ]
Mars Education..isn't
that
what we're doing? Is anyone else on the
D.C.
reflector not having
problems? This is so cool!
MikeH: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:48AM PDT (-
0700 GMT). . . [76 ]
Jennifer, we have a T1 connection thru
Colorado
U. I don't know the
exact
speed.
Phil@Bates: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
6:49AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [77 ]
No problems here in
Maine...live
video..webchat. Graphics are hazy,
and when
too bright create a
"buzz" in the audio. It's OK, tho.
Rob, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
6:49AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [78 ]
Mike-are you a teacher? Are
you
using the PTK projects?
Mike@KU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:49AM PDT (-
0700 GMT). . . [79 ]
Jennifer, we are using a T1 line, which is
pretty
big.
JenniferSellers: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:49AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[80 ]
Thanks, MikeH. I was trying to trouble-shoot Mie@KU's
problem and
got
confused. BUt while we're talking, which CU-SeeMe
reflector are you
using,
and are you having any trouble receiving
audio.
Mike@KU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:50AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[81
]
Rob we have three teachers here, but this is the first time any of
us
has
been involved with these projects.
Rob, auditorium: . . . .
Sat, Jul 20, 6:50AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [82 ]
Not all the graphics
are clear here either so don't worry.
Whit: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:50AM
PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [83 ]
Yahoo! I am now receiving the
realAudio!
I went to the AudioNet site
and
found the conference there.
Rob,
auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:51AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [84
]
Great-I just started this year-it's been a lot of fun learning along
with
our students.
JenniferSellers: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:51AM PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [85 ]
Mike@KU, are you still having trouble
receiving audio on CU-SeeMe?
If so,
are you getting any at all and
it's fuzzy or are you getting none? If
fuzzy,
nothing DC can do.
BEtter try another reflector.
Rob, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
6:52AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [86 ]
Are you receiving cuseeme in
color? How is the quality?
Mike@KU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:52AM PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [87 ]
What exactly Passport to Knowledge? Some
people here are very
interested in
this. Are their projects very
similar to this?
Phil@Bates: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:52AM PDT (-0700
GMT). . . [88 ]
Way to go...glad you can hear it...My classes piloted
the first two
TERC
modules...good stuff for planetary science....works
well with
standards
Rob, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:54AM PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [89 ]
It's a program combining video, on-line
projects, hands on
activities-you'll
love it-it can be adapted for a
large range of grades.
JenniferSellers: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:54AM PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [90 ]
For info on Passport to Knowledge, go to the
Introduction pages on
this Web
site.
MikeH: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
6:54AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [91 ]
Jennifer, we are not doing RA
or
CUSEEMe, we have a NASA TV
connection in
the room so we can see
everything perfectly.
Mike@KU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:55AM PDT (-
0700 GMT). . . [92 ]
We are going to switch reflectors...which one
are
you using Jennifer?
JenniferSellers: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:55AM PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [93 ]
THanks for info, MikeH!
Whit: . . . . Sat,
Jul
20, 6:55AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [94 ]
Is anyone using the web
page
graphics to see the slides ?) from the
presentation. When I I access
the "Graphics for Presntations" I get
the
"agenda".
JenniferSellers: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:56AM PDT (-
0700 GMT). . . [95 ]
Mike@KU, I'm only on a 14.4 modem for the
conference today! So, I'm
not even
using CU-SeeMe except to bring
up the video at times and see that
the
reflectors are still running.
However, try cu-ames.arc.nasa.gov
Phil@Bates: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
6:57AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [96 ]
I am not using the
presentation
page...will the graphics be available
there
after this
conference?
JenniferSellers: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:57AM PDT (-0700
GMT). . . [97 ]
Whit, you only get the agenda when there are no
graphics for the
presentation. If you are sure there are graphics,
then let me know
again.
Chris_Shenton@HQ: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
6:57AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[98 ]
WHICH audio is bad and in
what
way? HQ is running two RealAudio
servers
(14.4 and 28.8) plus CU-
SeeMe reflector. Local-site checks say the
CU audio
is fine but has
some background hiss probably picked up from
the
microphones.
Rob, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:57AM PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [99 ]
I don't think these slides are on the web
pages
at this time-we'll
check.
Chris_Shenton@HQ: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
6:58AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[100 ]
Our servers are: cu-
reflector.LFM.hq.nasa.gov and button (automatic
14.4 and
28.8
feeds)
Rob, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:59AM PDT (-0700 GMT).
. . [101
]
Whit-try clicking on the time where it says
agenda.
KarenY: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 7:01AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[102
]
I am on the 14.4 realaudio--no problems and I am looking at the
graphics. It
is hard to bounce back and forth, but all is up and
running. Cool!
Mike@KU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 7:01AM PDT (-0700
GMT). . . [103 ]
We are using CuSeeMe for our audio. Things are
better.
Rob, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 7:01AM PDT (-0700
GMT). . . [104
]
What would you like to know about Mars? Please
send in your
questions
andthey will be answered. by the NASA
Mars scientists. Questions
related to
Mars science, teaching about
Mars,in the classroom and ways to
outreach are
encouraged.
Rob,
auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 7:02AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [105
]
Whit-did you get the slides?
Mike@KU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 7:02AM
PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [106 ]
Woodbridge H.S., what's going
there...we
are getting video of you, but
it
looks like no one is there.
Online
Help: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 7:03AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [107 ]
Online
Help is available by addressing your question to Online Help. I
can't
guarantee that I'll be able to solve your problem, but I'll give
it my
best
shot.
KarenY: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 7:03AM PDT (-0700
GMT). . . [108 ]
I am on the 14.4 realaudio--no problems and I
am
looking at the
graphics. It
is hard to bounce back and forth, but all
is up and running. Cool!
Phil@Bates: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 7:03AM PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [109 ]
Wind has picked up here...our video feed
is
breaking up into static.
Sending
someone up to the roof to reorient
sat dish
Rob, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 7:04AM PDT (-0700
GMT). . . [110
]
Pretty high tech!
Mike@KU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
7:05AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [111 ]
I think that we are all so
consumed by the presenters. This info is
great so
far, very clear. I
am assuming that we will be addressing these
issues of
Mars Educ.
later...I hope.
Phil@Bates: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 7:05AM PDT (-0700
GMT). . . [112 ]
OK now...
KarenY: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 7:05AM PDT
(-
0700 GMT). . . [113 ]
I am on the 14.4 realaudio--no problems
and I
am looking at the
graphics. It
is hard to bounce back and forth, but
all is up and running. Cool!
JenniferSellers: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
7:05AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [114
]
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE Q &
A
IN WASHINGTON? NOW'S THE TIME TO
ASK! Just begin
with some
words that alert the moderators, like QUESTION.
Phil@Bates: . . . .
Sat, Jul 20, 7:05AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [115 ]
Can we get lat and
long for those images to find them on our map?
JenniferSellers: . .
. . Sat, Jul 20, 7:06AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [116
]
MIke@KU, what
CU
reflector are you on now?
Mike@KU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 7:07AM PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [117 ]
When will the Q&A begin?
MikeH: . . . .
Sat, Jul 20, 7:07AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [118 ]
Question: How can
a
teacher get a copy of the slides being shown?
And where
did all the
water on Mars go?
kathyann: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 7:07AM PDT (-0700
GMT). . . [119 ]
hello
Sandy: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 7:07AM PDT (-
0700
GMT). . . [120 ]
Help Desk: We cannot connect to the Real Audio
server from the
activity
page. Instead, a download starts from the
14.400 baud link. What am
I doing
wrong?
Rob, auditorium: . . . .
Sat, Jul 20, 7:08AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [121
]
Donna Shirley
said
that in 1998 a probe will go to the polar cap- A-
which
cap? B- How
deep do the scientists expect the permafrost to be?
Whit: . . . . Sat,
Jul 20, 7:08AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [122 ]
Have located
"graphics",
thanks. next question How do I "catch up'
with the
slides? I
currently have a group photo on the screen.
Phil@Bates: . . . . Sat,
Jul 20, 7:08AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [123 ]
QUESTION***will the
graphics be available from Mike presentation
on the
website?
CD=ROM? And will we be able to get the lat and long for
the
graphics?
KarenY: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 7:09AM PDT (-0700 GMT).
. . [124 ]
My browser is not refreshing automatically. When I hit
reload I seem
to be
resending the previous message. Sorr. I am a
High school science
teacher. I
am interested in using this technology
in my classroom, so am open to ideas.
7:09 KarenY My
browser is not refreshing automatically. When I hit reload I seem to
be resending the previous message. Sorr. I am a High school science
teacher. I am interested in using this technology in my classroom, so
am open to ideas.
7:09 Rob, auditorium We are recording all questions to be
answered by our scientists on air.
7:09 Mike@KU
We are still on the D.C. reflector...it is the only one that we could
connect to. The others were down, or at least the ones we were
given IPs for.
7:10 Whit OOps!
I'm at graphic #26, does anyone know which one we're at?
7:10 MikeH Question: Do scientists know why the northern
hemisphere of Mars is more active geologically.
7:10 Chris_Shenton
@HQ SANDY: which RA server? 7:11 Rob,
auditorium We are using netscape on the mac-we need to keep
hitting chat to get recent messages-it is not automatic. 131
7:11 WEBMASTER NEED TO PRESS CHAT BUTTON --- NOT
RELOAD!!!!!!!!!!!
7:12 KarenY My browser
is not refreshing automatically. When I hit reload I seem to be
resending the previous message. Sorr. I am a High school science
teacher. I am interested in using this technology in my classroom, so
am open to ideas
7:12 JenniferSellers Hi kathyann, we read you!
7:13 JenniferSellers Mike@KU, but now you are getting audio OK with CU-SeeMe?
7:13 Mike@KU
Karen Y.
there is a small box above the Chat box. Enter the number of
seconds you want to refresh after.
40 works pretty well. when creating a message...hit pause..it will
keep your screen from changing while you type in your message.
7:14 JenniferSellers KarenY, you might be able to set a refresh rate. What browser
are you using?
7:15 KarenY Thanks. It
worked fine when I tried it yesterday (the refresh rate), but, of
course, not today!
7:15 Mike@KU
We need the speakers to speak more clearly...the audio is probably
as good as it's going to get.
7:15
JenniferSellers Q & A IS BEGINNING NOW!!
7:16 Mike@KU
The panel needs to speak up, or speak more directly into the mic.
7:17 Online
Help Jennifer-so far, I've only lost my connection once,
so I think
I'm good right up until 11. Sorry I can't stay later-Chris
7:17 Phil@Bates QU
ESTION***What do you think might have caused the distinctly
different AGE related surface features?
7:17 kathyann Help- I can
get audio on RA but not graphics. Where do I go for them?
7:18 JenniferSellers Thanks, Chris! What a relief!
7:19 Mike@KU
Are there plans to date the material we analyze..I'm interested in
seeing if Mars gives us the same
date of the Earth.
7:20 JenniferSellers kathyann, you can go to the agenda and click on the time for the
presentation and get the graphics for that presentation.
7:21 Mike@KU
I was referring to the age of the Earth and the solar system. Sorry,
I wasn't clear about that before.
7:25 WEBMASTER Status
3 people in Mars_Transcript
16 people in Mars_Discussion
16 RealAudio players on k12-dev server
cpu on quest 50% - load 50% 149 7:25 bhob@genie.com
7:27 MikeH Question***From a teacher in our audience here.
Early planetologists suspected lichens were growing in Syrtis Major
area. Are we sending a mission to this area?
7:29 Mike@KU
What substance are you using the fill the "airbags", and are there
any issues with changing pressures as it approaches Mars?
7:31 jse Hello
from Lakeland Community College, east of Cleveland.
7:31 Rob, auditorium Hello jse from NASA auditorium in DC.
7:32 jse How many
sites are doing this?
7:33 BillBourn Is
there an operating model of the Sojourner rover available to
purchase?
7:33 kati hello
7:33 Jim, auditorium Hi, Rob has taken a break and I'll be on
line for awhile.
7:34 BillBourn Is
there an operating model of the Sojourner rover available to
purchase?
7:35 Jim, auditorium Hi, Kati welcome to NASA web chat.
7:36 BillBourn Is
there an operating model of the Sojourner rover available to
purchase?
7:36 ENC Trainers Hi from the Division of Educational
Programs at Argonne National Laboratory in the Chicago area.
7:37 justdane hello
7:37 ENC Trainers Hi from the Division of Educational
Programs at Argonne National Laboratory in the Chicago area.
7:37 kati Hi. I interested in the Mars project. Just thought I'd
see
what's going on here.
7:37 ENC Trainers Hi from the Division of Educational
Programs at Argonne National Laboratory in the Chicago area.
7:38 Jim, auditorium Bill, an operating model is available on
the web. You will be able to play with the model.
7:38 ENC Trainers Hi from the Division of Educational
Programs at Argonne National Laboratory in the Chicago area.
7:39 Jim, auditorium Bob, The lander will land on the Southern
cap.
7:39 Jim, auditorium Bob they are estimating that the ice cap
may be from 1 kilometer ot 3 K deep.
7:40 justdane can you explain the pathfinder
7:40
JenniferSellers ENC TRAINERS: Hit [chat] button rather than [reload].
7:42 Jim, auditorium We are ending the live panel questions
for now, but write down your questions for this afternoon.
7:42 kati why the south pole?
7:42 BillBourn I
was hoping for a physical model that could be driven over obstacles
in the parking lot.
7:43 Jim, auditorium If I remember correctly the South Pole
was choosen because it is colder.
So the lander won't melt the ice when it lands.
7:44 Mike@KU
Where is the location of the model on the site?
7:45 Phil@Bates BT
W, the sat dish was adjusted well, with no accidents! Thanks for
your concern!!! :])
7:46 kati When is the
expected date of first unmanned landing?
7:46 Mike@KU
What was the email address for classroom of the future?
7:47 MikeH CJ Rodkey: You have just made all of the Exploring
the Environment Project members proud of what you are doing in the
classroom. Thanks, Bob Myers NASA Classroom of the Future
7:48 BillBourn email
uncertain. I copied button as
the URL
7:50 BillBourn I
forgot that webchat turned my message into an actual link. It's
cotf.edu with the usual http prefix.
7:52 Online
Help Unless anyone has any pressing technical
questions, I'll be
signing off now. Online help will be available throughout
the day. Different people will be available at different
times.
7:54 JenniferSellers Thanks again, Online Helper Chris!
7:55 Grand Jct,
CO It is interesting that Olympus Mons is not covered by
glaciers
7:57 MikeH Bonnie, how exciting it is to hear all the things
you are saying
! You one of the Challenger Seven Fellows extending so much to the
others
to the classrooms. Hazel Hsieh, another Challenger Seven Fellow!
7:57 The web site for Red Rover is button
8:01 BillBourn I
tried to raise cotf.edu without success. I'll try red rover now.
8:01 Phil, whew! glad to see you have fixed your problem and
everyone is well.
8:03 We are going to try to find out how you can get a copy of
the CD ROM that is being talked about right now.
8:03 BillBourn Red rover is
responding fine. the button again is button
8:05 Nick As a
second grade teacher, I like the long-range view needed
here. It gives my students a sense of the future.
8:05 Nick As a
second grade teacher, I like the long-range view needed
here. It gives my students a sense of the future.
8:05 The CD-ROM is available through the same source as the
video.
info@engmm.com www.engmm.com
770-993-8384
8:0 BillBourn That
address is for the planetary society home page. red rover is at the
complete URL of
button
A>
8:08 What would you like to know about Mars?
Please send in your questions and they well be answered by the
NASA
Mars scientists that are here today. Questions related to Mars
science, teaching about Mars in the classroom or the ways to
encourage our outreach efforts.
8:08 Michelle
Hello from Cleveland. This is really neat!
8:08 Keep those cards and letters rolling in.....
8:08 Michelle
Hello from Cleveland. This is really neat!
8:08 Nick As a
second grade teacher, I like the long-range view needed
here. It gives my students a sense of the future.
8:08 NASA/GSFC/TRL/2 Hi This is Kay at Goddard TRL with some teacher friends. We
have a question about the iron content of the Martian soil. Is the
iron in the soil in high enough concentrations to extract and use as a
building material? And, question #2: Are the silicate concentrations
pure enough to use in the construction of O'Neill Spheres?
8:09 Nick As a
second grade teacher, I like the long-range view needed
here. It gives my students a sense of the future.
8:09 Phil@Bates QU
ESTION***Are there any plans to "bring back" any samples from
Mars?
8:09 Nick As a
second grade teacher, I like the long-range view needed
here. It gives my students a sense of the future.
8:11 Kay, we are recording your question and will try to get
you an
answer ASAP.
8:12 Pauline Hi Hope
online help is still available. I'll expalin details after I'm sure I'm
getting thru
8:13 Tom
Cris: Live From Mars realaudio stream is quite clear here
in the WOC
8:14 Tom (at
28.8)
8:15 Please do not post your picture. I appears on a large
screen behind the speaker and is a distraction to people here.
8:16 Phil....
The plan to bring back samples is..
Launch 2005
Return sample to Earth 2008
8:16 Pauline My real
Audio is not working - it just reloads and quits the system every
time
I have 2 windows open. The transcripts seem interesting but a bit
garbled
It it possible to see graphics presented earlier - or only when being
shown live
So far it's just been people and a podium
When will the email transcipts be sent ?
8:17 There will be a chance to ask questions about the CD
very soon. So send in CD ROM questions now.
8:18 BillBourn What are the
hardware requirements for the use of the CD ROM?
8:19 JenniferSellers Michele and Nick, please hit CHAT rather than RELOAD to
refresh.
8:19 The CD will be available in one month and cost $10.00.
The address and phone number was given earlier.
8:19 JenniferSellers Pauline, I will mail you directly.
8:21 Pauline I'll try
again with more punctuation.
RealAudio reloads every time I try to connect it ??
I tried it last week and contacted their help desk.
The only advice was to rebuild desktop which I did but didn't help.
8:21 NASA/GSFC/TRL/2 This is Kay again at Goddard. Are participants going to receive
a copy of the Mars Navigator CD-ROM?
8:22 Whit Hi,
back again. What screen is speaket at?
8:23 Jim, Auditorium Whit, I'm not sure what your question
is? The speaker is on NASA TV and on CuSee Me.
8:24 Whit re
realAudio, one of their suggestions is to "clear" your disk cache and
restart RA]
8:25 Laura(MontroseCO) Kathy are you there?
8:25 Whit I'm
listening on RA and watching slides, but I've messed up . I was
wondering what slide he was on. The slides are numbered like c5.gif
etc
8:25 Tanya-
ku How can we find out who our state representative
is?
8:26 Tanya-
ku For the conference (just wanted to clarify!).
8:26 Jim, Auditorium Last chance for CD ROM questions
8:26 Mike@KU
Did I see that the CD contains the Pathfinder movie? Does it
contain the whole movie or do I need to order tha movie
separately?
8:27 Phil@Bates QU
ESTION***How can we (teachers) keep the Eisenhower funds from
being pooled in with State block grants? 229
8:27 Laura(montrose,co) Kathy (GJ) are you there?
8:28 Grand Jct,
CO How can virtual participants obtain copies of the CD
rom that was just demonstrated????!!!
8:30 HIROSHI I am watching RealAudio program
in japan. Sound is "clear".
Last time we in Japan participate in LHST, sound was not cLear.
8:31 Jim, Auditorium Bill, the requirements for the CD are a
486 or up with Windows
or a Macintosh both will need Quicktime and 8 mgs of RAM
8:31 Rob
H. Wow!! Where can we find FAQ's on WebChat and CuCme
and Quicktime?
8:31 Grand Jct,
CO Laura, Kathy is here at the GJ site, our computer is
in another room from the TV....I'll go tell her to come chat.
8:32 Mano How
does one go about getting a copy of this CD
8:33 Jim, Auditorium Mike, Part of the movie is on the CD you
will need to evaluate your needs.
Again the CD ROM is available at 770-993-8384 more inforamtion
via info@engmm.com or www.engmm.com
8:34 JenniferSellers ALL WebChat PARTICIPANTS: Please be aware that this
WebChat is being projected onto a screen in the front of the NASA HQ
auditorium where the physical conference is taking place. :-)
8:34 Mike@KU
What did he just say about Carl Sagan?
8:34 Pierre I am new to this technology. Try to find my
way...
8:34 Jim, Auditorium Is there anyone on Web Chat from
outside of the U.S.?
8:34 Grand Jct,
CO Laura, Iam with a group of 4 teachers at the Grand
Junction instructional building. We couldn't getthe tv and the
computers in the same room so we are busy running back and forth
between the two. At lunch break I willgo home and bring in my own
computer so we can hook to a regular phone line. How are things
going for you? Kathy
8:35 HIROSHI I think snapshots and RealAudio is
better than cu-seeme.
8:35 Charlie, Auditorium Hi folks, I'm releaving Jim.
8:36 Charlie, Auditorium There is someone from Japan on the
Chat.
8:36 Mano Hi Jim,
This is Mano from South Africa
8:36 Charlie, Auditorium Any Red Rover questions?
8:37 Mano Hi Jim,
This is Mano from South Africa
8:38 JenniferSellers RobH, information on all the technologies and links to the
specific sites (where you can find FAQs) is available from butto
n (scroll past helpful user hints).
8:38 Whit Outside
US?
Whit Prophet in Brockville, Ontario, Canda
Using WebChat, realAudio and graphics, very neat!
8:38 Charlie, Auditorium Hi Mano, from Washington, D.C.
8:38 HIROSHI I am a elementary school teacher.
We took part in the LHST last April.
Students were very exciting.
8:38 Mano Hi Jim,
This is Mano from South Africa
8:39 Charlie, Auditorium Glad you're with us!
8:39 Tanya-
ku Mano
Where in South Africa are you located? What is the availability of
technology in your school system?
8:40 Mano Charlie,
It's incredible the quality of sound coming thru RealAudio
8:40 Whit RedRov
er...
Are technical specs available?
Lego dacta?
Camera?
8:40 JenniferSellers Mano, please use chat button rather than reload, to refresh.
8:40 Pierre Yes, there is a participant from Canada. My name
is Pierre. I am try to get familiar with this new technology. I am an
amateur astronomer.
8:41 Tanya-
ku Hiroshi - What is LHST?
8:42 BillBourn I'll stick
with the hardware requirements to participate in the project?
8:42 Charlie, Auditorium How about that for answering your
question!
8:42 Mano Hi
Tanya-ku: , I'm about 150kms east of Johannesburg.
The towns name is Secunda.
8:43 LauraCO Where
can I get the slides used by speakers at the workshop?
8:43 Mano Thanks
Jennifer
I was getting worried about this repeating procedure... :-)
8:44 Charlie, Auditorium The slides are available on the
website.
8:44 DianeS-
Maywood Hii, Maywood Center in SeaTAc, WA is on.
8:45 Tanya-
ku LauraCO - The slides are all displayed under the
AGENDGA section of the first web page.
Click on time of session to get pictures!
8:45 HIROSHI Hi! Tanya-ku. LHST is Live from
Habble Space Telescope project.
8:46 Charlie, Auditorium Hi Diane we have one person from
Seattle here!
8:47 LauraCO question
about the rover going to Mars. Will it be able to core
down into the surface to get samples to compare to the composition
of the earth?
8:47 HIROSHI Hi! Tanya-ku. LHST is Live from
Habble Space Telescope project.
8:47 Charlie, Auditorium Any Rover questions?
8:48 JenniferSellers Welcome, Maywood Center.
8:49 DianeS-
Maywood Hi, Jennifer It is cloudy and cool here today.
A good day to be inside.
8:50 Phil@Bates QU
ESTION***Is there any hard copy info that we could get on RR,RR?
You know, the glossy stuff that school committees would actually
read...
8:51 Charlie, Auditorium Answer for LauraCO - No, but it can
look at surface soil and rocks VERY closely.
8:51 LauraCO How can
I get the CuCeMe piece. I am having trouble accessing it,
8:52 Tanya-
ku Hiroshi - Sorry, what did they "do"?
8:52 Tanya-
ku Hiroshi - Oops! Let me try the whole message again.
What did you students do as part of the project?
What grade do you teach?
8:55 BillBourn
8:56 Phil@Bates QU
ESTION***what are the problems with wireless control?
8:57 Charlie, Auditorium Planetary 1-800-969-mars Cindy
Helife or planetary.org/tps (site is under construction)
8:57 HIROSHI Tanya-ku! They watched the NASA
TV via cu-seeMe and they questioned. They participate in the
program.
8:58 jse Thanks for
reading the URL's.
8:58 JenniferSellers LauraCO, do you have CU-SeeMe software (client) installed on
your computer?
8:59 Charlie, Auditorium Your welcome.
8:59 HIROSHI I teach 5 grade pupil. 10 to 11
years old.
8:59 LauraCO Jennifer,
Thanks I got it..
8:59 jse Can
someone Email that list of connected sites into the listserv?
9:00 Tanya-
ku Hiroshi - Do you have computers for each student or
just one in the class?
We don't have computers in the classroom in the school where I
teach.
9:02 Scoti Hi!
This conference is great. Real Audio is working great.
My school is dedicated to teaching as much curriculum
as possible using aero-space materials. I teach fifth grade
and am very excited about this progrm for the students.
I take (with lots of help) 150 students to Space Camp in
Huntsville, Ala. each year. Is there one location where I can
get all related materials?
9:03 Charlie, Auditorium For the next hour we'll be at lunch, but
feel free to send in your questions, and or/ comments. Recorders
will write them down between bites or bytes! Enjoy!
9:04 HIROSHI We have 21 computers in our
school. But cpu is 386 and not conected any net.
9:04 rebecca-
ku We here at KU are signing off now to eat lunch. we'll
connect with you later and scroll back and read everything. What
time is it where everyone is?
9:05 Phil@Bates QU
ESTION***what is the hierarchy of costs for the diff levels of RR,
RR?
9:06 Tanya-
ku Hiroshi - It has been nice chatting with you. I will
be back on later. We in Kansas are going to eat lunch!
9:0 LauraCO It's
10:00 am here in Montrose CO.
9:08 HIROSHI I am working in Suginami-ku
Tokyo. Now Bill Gutch is in Japan.
Is there anyone who kows IPS and Sho Itoh.
9:09 Whit I add
my congratulations and thanks to all those people just mentioned
who have made this possible!
9:09 Grand Jct,
CO We would love to see a list of the participating on-
line sites- any chance of posting that somewhere?
9:10 Grand Jct,
CO Question: How will the Red Rovers work. Will they
use LOGO?
9:11 Mary D. Mike D. Go to Hallway. Need HELP! Mary
9:18 HIROSHI Thank you very much all. I wish I
would meet you again next time with my students.
9:19 JenniferSellers Pauline Seales, Did those suggestions for RealAudio work for
you?
9:27 Charlie, Auditorium For the next hour we'll be at lunch,
but feel free to send in your questions, and or/ comments. Recorders
will write them down between bites or bytes! Enjoy!
9:33 Grand Jct, CO Jennifer, I just downloaded RA and am
having the same problems as I was at home on another computer. I'm
not sure how to clear the cache area. I'm getting an error message
about connecting to the server
9:33 MikeH This is the Case for Mars Conference and
Challenger Center
for Space Science Education conference here in Boulder,
Colorado. We only had the NASA-TV link thru 10:15 our time,
but we may have teachers and conference participants sending
messages again later. Thank you for the great presentations.
Our Case for Mars Education Working Group will be setting up
a web site for communicating about Mars education and
sharing resources and ideas. If interest in our web site,
e-mail your e-mail address to Richard Wagner at
campr2@javanet.com.
Just say you want to be put on a list to get the Case for
Mars Education Working Group web site address.
9:42 JenniferSellers Grand Jct, which RA server are you choosing on the
activity.html page? Also, what speed are you receiving at?
9:46 We will be back from lunch at 1 p.m. EST
9:48 JenniferSellers Right, please ask Andrea to call Jennifer. Not urgent, but
important. 9:52 Grand Jct, CO Jennifer, I have tried both RA
server links. We are connected here with a T1 line
9:52 PathFinder I keep Getting
an Invalid Server Error on my Real Audio. I need Help!!
9:53 Grand Jct, CO PathFinder- same problem here, we can
troubleshoot together
9:55 Scoti Scoti
here. Are the jpeg images going to remain on
the menu so that we can save them later?
9:56 PathFinder I think it has something to do with the
win3.1 and 95 winsocks
9:57 Robbie, auditorium HellO everyone, We will be starting in
the 5 min.
10:00 PathFinder Is there a Live From Mars Homepage
posted yet??
10:01 Caruso Chiming in: RealAudio is very good most of the
time. I can also get simultaneously CuSeeMe. CuSeeMe is o.k.-9kbps.
a little like a jigsaw puzzle evolving into stills., but not bad.
I cannot simultaneously get Netscape up with these two. So I scap
CuSeeMe to Webchat.
Maybe I missed this. But what is the email address for questions for
the experts? Are there different addresses for different types of
questions (tech. astronomical, etc.)
10:02 Tim Greetings from Ireland, Tim Lavery here, just
joining the conference
10:03 Mano What's
the address for Cu-SeeMe? Help?
10:04 JenniferSellers For those of you having problems with RealAudio (which IS
working without problems at this time) try loading the site directly,
rather than from your Web Browser. Type the following in your
RealAudio player under File/Open Location: pnm://k12-
dev.arc.nasa.gov/live.ra
10:05 JenniferSellers Mano (and others) the two CU-SeeMe reflectors that I am
confident of at this time are: cu-ames.arc.nasa.gov and
reflector.lfm.hq.nasa.gov
10:05 LauraCO How will
the rover on Mars be guided. i.e. deployment of weather
station and experiments.
10:06 Greetings from NC
10:06 rebecca-
ku weeeee're baaack! KU is on line again! Whar's new?
10:0 is anyone presently watching the Mars Interactive
program?
10:08 Robbie, auditorium Pathfinder, The Live from Mars home
page url is:
button
10:08 JC
Craig
Good morning, Jennifer et al. Looks like I got started here just in
time.
10:08 Whit Whit
Prophet , back from lunch. Actually mowed the lawn. Is RA up and
running again?
10:09 Robbie, auditorium Caruso, send e mail questions to:
mars-?@mail.arc.nasa.gov
10:10 LauraCO When
will the Pathfinder stop collecting data?
10:10 steve Hello from
NC!
10:10 PathFinder Jennifer I tried typing the location but
i stiil get the same error;
"Requested Server Is Not Valid", any other solutions you might
have would be greatly appreciated.
10:11 JC
Craig
Laura: Did you ever get CUSeeMe working? Or was that someone
else?
10:12 JenniferSellers Whit, RA has been running all along. There was a pause while
NASA TV switched from live to tape and from tape to live, but you
should not have experienced any other drops in service. If you are
having trouble, please try connecting directly to the server per my
instrux above. 336 10:12 Phil@Bates 8
teachers @ Bates College site present and well fed...hello again!
10:13 PathFinder WHIT the mail address is Mars-
question@mail.arc.nasa.gov
10:13 LauraCO JC Craig,
I did. I'm not using it because I am watching satillite today
10:14 JenniferSellers PathFinder, try connecting to the RealAudio site to see that
you can connect to SOMEwhere.
10:15 Robbie, auditorium Pathfinder, the correct e mail
address is:
mars-?@mail.arc.nasa.gov
10:16 Roger
Stryker
Hello from across the auditorium at the Cu-SeeMe station!
10:18 Robbie, auditorium Hello, Roger from Robbie at the
Webchat station 343 10:18 PathFinder Jennifer Your Good but I already tried
that. I can't open any RA Files. I tried listening to the Shuttle
Landing a few weeks back. i got the same error then also.
10:19 LauraCO I'm sure
you have already answered this question. Is there any-
where that I can get the hard copy of information from this
workshop that
was given to live participants?
10:19 Dude Hello to you
all from Falls Church, VA!
10:19 Roger
Stryker
Hello from across the auditorium at the Cu-SeeMe station!
10:20 Robbie, auditorium What would you like to know about
Mars? Please send in your questions and they will be answered by
the NASA Mars scientists that are here today. Questions related to
Mars science teaching about Mars in the classroom and ways to
outreach are encouraged.
10:20 JC_Crai
g
Jennifer: Will there be a transcript of these procedings available
after the conference has ended?
Robbie, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:20AM PDT (-0700 GMT). .
. [347 ]
What would you like to know about Mars? Please send in your
questions and
they will be answered by the NASA Mars scientists that are here
today.
Questions related to Mars science teaching about Mars in the
classroom and
ways to outreach are encouraged. Sat, Jul 20, 10:20AM PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [348 ] Ya know what would be very useful in this
presentation -- some music. [Image] JC_Craig: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
10:20AM
PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [349 ] Jennifer: Will there be a transcript of
these
procedings available after the conference has ended?
JenniferSellers: . . .
. Sat, Jul 20, 10:21AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [350 ] Pathfinder:
Well...you've
gotten beyond me! Have you tried going to the RA web site and
reading their
FAQs and other user info? [Image] [Image] [Image] JC_Craig: . . . . Sat,
Jul
20, 10:22AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [351 ] Robbie: Question... are
there any
concrete plans regarding the manned exploration of Mars (i.e.
timelines,
contractors, etc.)? Mike@KU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:22AM PDT (-0700
GMT). .
. [352 ] Where are these modules on the Web? JenniferSellers: . . . .
Sat,
Jul 20, 10:23AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [353 ] JC Craig: We'll archive
everything we have: WebChats, RA files, WebChat transcription. P.S.
Please
see my private email to you. Robbie, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
10:23AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [354 ] JC Craig, There will be a
transcript of
these prccedings available after the conference has ended.
JenniferSellers:
. . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:24AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [355 ] ALL: THE
*CORRECT*
ADDRESS FOR SENDING MAIL TO THE AUDITORIUM IS:
mars-question@mail.arc.nasa.gov PathFinder: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
10:24AM PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [356 ] Jennifer, did it done it, but thanks
JenniferSellers: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:25AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[357 ]
Sorry, Pathfinder! Dan: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:26AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[358 ] This is cute. JenniferSellers: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:26AM PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [359 ] ALL: I forgot to say that for posting
questions to
the Q & Q, you may simply post them here as well. Type QUESTION or
something
like it in all caps so that the monitors will be sure to pick it up. Dan:
.
. . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:27AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [360 ] I think she is
very
used to teaching 6 year olds. Think the audience members can dress
themselves? [Image] JC_Craig: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:27AM PDT (-0700
GMT).
. . [361 ] Jennifer: If we prefer not to use e-mail, do we send
questions
through the Webchat discussion page? Robbie, auditorium: . . . . Sat,
Jul
20, 10:28AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [362 ] Everyone: Further
information on
Mars Pathfinder is available at: button information on Global
Surveyor is
also available at the above URL. Revised transcript will be available
at:
button [Image] JC_Craig: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:28AM PDT (-0700 GMT).
. .
[363 ] Jennifer: Never mind. :) You answered the question before I
asked it.
Dude: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:29AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [364 ] Is this
chat
being displayed behind the speaker? Tanya-ku: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
10:30AM
PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [365 ] Hey everyone, these messages are
being posted at
the conference. This is great info, and a lot of it is free...let's not
complain. She is trying to help you, not herself. Dave, auditorium: . . .
.
Sat, Jul 20, 10:31AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [366 ] Hi! This is Dave
replacing
Robbie in the auditorium. PathFinder: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:31AM PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [367 ] Is there a Live From MArs Homepage Posted
yet?
[Image] JC_Craig: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:31AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[368 ]
Dude: It looks like it. I think it would be to our benefit to behave
ourselves. :) BillBourn: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:32AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[369 ] try this button to mail a question to auditorium? button
Dude: . . .
. Sat, Jul 20, 10:32AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [370 ] Can we get a live
picture
view of the auditorium over the web? I'm watching this on TV also
but I'm
not getting a good feel for what's going on there... Dave, auditorium: .
. .
. Sat, Jul 20, 10:32AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [371 ] Dude, this chat
is indeed
being displayed behind the speaker, so.... be careful! The whole world
can
see. LauraCO: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:32AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [372 ]
Dave,
QUESTION: What is the address to get these modules? Dave,
auditorium: . . .
. Sat, Jul 20, 10:33AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [373 ] Good question
Dude. We
will give it a try. Keep watching. Dude: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:33AM PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [374 ] If I thought the whole world was watching,
I think I
would have come up with a better handle. justdane: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
10:33AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [375 ] hello from michigan Dave,
auditorium: .
. . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:34AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [376 ] We will get that
info
for you Laura. Just a minute. Dude: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:34AM PDT (-
0700
GMT). . . [377 ] Hi, justdane! PathFinder: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:35AM
PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [378 ] I want to see my chat on TV!! Dave,
auditorium: . .
. . Sat, Jul 20, 10:35AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [379 ] Hello justdane
from
NASA headquarters. How is the weather in Michigan, my home state?
justdane:
. . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:35AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [380 ] what is the
core of
mars made of Dave, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:36AM PDT (-
0700 GMT).
. . [381 ] PathFinder, just watch the left side of the stage. The
chat is
displayed there. Univ of KS.: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:36AM PDT (-0700
GMT).
. . [382 ] Where are those modules on the Web? Please respond, or
wait for
the next Q&A. justdane: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:37AM PDT (-0700 GMT). .
.
[383 ] the weather is mi today is warm, sunny and gorgeous. How
unusual
PathFinder: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:38AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [384 ]
Hey,
people look over here Mike@KU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:38AM PDT (-0700
GMT).
. . [385 ] Dude, who are you and where are you from? Univ: . . . .
Sat, Jul
20, 10:38AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [386 ] Hi just dane, I'm from
Michigan, but
I'm stuck in KS. I am a UofM Alumnus. Where in the state are you?
PathFinder: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:39AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [387 ]
Some
one push them off the board justdane: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:39AM PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [388 ] lake orion. Dave, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul
20,
10:39AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [389 ] Laura: the first ten pages of
the
modules are available at button This is only a draft. The modules are
still
a work in progress. More will be available in about one month. Chech
your
local Teacher Resource Center. Or send e-mail message to
info@engmm.com ,
but wait at least one month. Dude: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:40AM PDT (-
0700
GMT). . . [390 ] I'm Rick Dyer from Falls Church, VA. Hey, I'm also a
University of Michigan alumnus! justdane: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:41AM
PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [391 ] I'm an Oakland U grad Dude: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
10:41AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [392 ] GO BLUE! Dave, auditorium: . . .
. Sat,
Jul 20, 10:41AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [393 ] Meridith Olson is
conducting
live lesson demos in the auditorium now. It is really good! Scoti: . . . .
Sat, Jul 20, 10:42AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [394 ] QUESTION? Is
there one
handy location from which to get all these Mars materials that we
are
learning about today? --lesson plans, videos, CD's,WWW links, etc.
PathFinder: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:42AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [395 ]
30
Degrees Whit: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:43AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [396 ]
Finallt got RA functioning again, can anyone tell me which slide #
the
apeaker is on, or where should I be? Dude: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:43AM
PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [397 ] We need a virtual protractor for this! Dave,
auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:43AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [398 ]
Just a
minute Scoti. I'll get the answer. Univ: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:43AM PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [399 ] I grew up in Rochester Hills, and graduated
from
UofM in 93'. justdane, are you teaching in Lake Orion?
JenniferSellers: . .
. . Sat, Jul 20, 10:43AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [400 ] All, how many
of you
are using CU-SeeMe and are you satisfied with it? michael: . . . . Sat,
Jul
20, 10:44AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [401 ] hi this is michael from
south africa
Dave, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:44AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[402 ]
Students are attempting to walk up a ramp. The angle is now 40
degrees!
Dude: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:45AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [403 ] Haven't
tried
CU-See Me or RealAudio. I was a little unprepared for this event!
Dave,
auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:45AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [404 ]
Scoti:
scroll back about 20 messages. You should find all the resource
locations
listed. Ok? [Image] JC_Craig: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:46AM PDT (-0700
GMT).
. . [405 ] Jennifer: I'm using CUSeeMe at 14.4K and two Netscape
windows
(one for chat and the other for the transcription). It's OK but I
wouldn't
want to watch "Citizen Kane" this way. :) [Image] JC_Craig: . . . . Sat,
Jul
20, 10:46AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [406 ] Jennifer: I'm using
CUSeeMe at 14.4K
and two Netscape windows (one for chat and the other for the
transcription).
It's OK but I wouldn't want to watch "Citizen Kane" this way. :)
LauraCO: .
. . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:46AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [407 ] Hi Micheal in
South
Africa, This is Laura from Colorado US. This is great to be able to
chat
with you Will you tell me about your school, classroom and what you
teach?
LauraCO: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:47AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [408 ]
QUESTION:
Did she just say Mars soil is kitty litter? justdane: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
10:47AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [409 ] No, I'm an engineer but have a
group of
talented children here with me very interested in space programs.
Dave,
auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:48AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [410 ]
Michael, greetings from the NASA auditorium too. If you have any
questions
or comments, we would be happy to respond. Scoti: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
10:48AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [411 ] Thanks, Dave DianeS-
Maywood: . . . .
Sat, Jul 20, 10:49AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [412 ] Hi, everyone,
again. Dave,
auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:49AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [413 ]
Kitty
liter is right! Michael@KU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:49AM PDT (-0700
GMT). .
. [414 ] Cu-See Me is doing alright. We are running at 2.4 fps, but
the
audio needs to be better...it could have something to do with the set
up
andmics you are using at the conf. michael: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:50AM
PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [415 ] LauraCO:i am not a teacher. but this is very
interesting for us in south africa. [Image] JC_Craig: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
10:50AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [416 ] QUESTION: Care to elucidate
on that
kitty litter comment? In composition or texture? In what ways is
Martian
soil like kitty litter? Dave, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:51AM
PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [417 ] Everybody is making a mountain, but they
are using
three different substances and measuring the slope of the mountain
using
protractors. This might upset the janitor! Dude: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
10:51AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [418 ] You appear to be the longest-
distance
participant, Michael! PathFinder: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:52AM PDT (-
0700
GMT). . . [419 ] Some one push them off the board Dave, auditorium:
. . . .
Sat, Jul 20, 10:52AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [420 ] Kitty litter, sand
and
salt. The results are being gatheres. Interesting data. Any
presictions?
Which do you think will be steepest? Michael@KU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
10:52AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [420 ] Dude, where are you? Are you a
teacher?
When did you grad from UM? michael: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:52AM PDT
(-0700
GMT). . . [421 ] Dude: mano from here is also online ,with us thanks
anyway
Dude: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:52AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [422 ] Who's
running
mean, median, and std deviation statistics here? [Image] JC_Craig: . .
. .
Sat, Jul 20, 10:53AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [423 ] Thanks, Dave. It
makes a
little more sense now. The transcription seemed to skip a bit. Dave,
auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:53AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [424 ]
Do you
want the raw data? LauraCO: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:54AM PDT (-0700
GMT). .
. [425 ] Dave, I predict the Mars soil will be the steepest.
PathFinder: . .
. . Sat, Jul 20, 10:54AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [426 ] Mars 38 Dude: . .
. .
Sat, Jul 20, 10:54AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [427 ] Not a teacher,
Michael@KU.
Just a former philosophy student (grad. 1990) who's fiancee is
working video
at this event and happened to find out about it teh day after I got a
new
PowerMac 8500... [Image] JC_Craig: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:55AM PDT (-
0700
GMT). . . [428 ] Dude: This is aimed at K-12 students. I think trying
to
figure out means and deviations is a little beyond the scope of this
experiment. Dave, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:55AM PDT (-0700
GMT).
. . [429 ] We are discussing now: do we need to calculate averages,
or can
we see trends without averages? Dude: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:56AM PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [430 ] Good point, JC. I'm just interested to see
where
this is leading. I'd love to see if anyone's handed in their yellow
paper,
yet! LauraCO: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:56AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [431 ]
JC
Craig, This is not over the heads of K-12 students. I would get mean,
median
and avg of this data with my 6th graders. PathFinder: . . . . Sat, Jul
20,
10:56AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [432 ] Hello Whit: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
10:57AM
PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [433 ] This activity does not lend itself to RA
and Web
page graphics, I will be back at 3:15 Dave, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul
20,
10:57AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [434 ] Thanks for the comment JC. I
was just
kidding about mean, mode, standard deviation, etc. We are just
looking for
trends. Lets keep it simple. Michael@KU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:57AM
PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [435 ] Isn't this concept known as the angle of
repose?
People in Geology deal with this. PathFinder: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
10:58AM
PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [436 ] Yell, make lots of noise [Image]
JC_Craig: . . .
. Sat, Jul 20, 10:59AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [437 ] Dude: I think this
demonstration shows a few things such as data collection and how
the
materials of which something is composed can effect its structure.
It also
seems to demonstrate cooperation (eg. the sharing of the collected
data).
Dave, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 10:59AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[438 ]
Good discussion in the auditorium about variability of results. If you
are
watching, what do you think? 38 or 35? PathFinder: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
10:59AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [439 ] Can you Live with
variability??? Dave,
auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:00AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [440 ]
JC, we
will see about cooperation now. We are trying to clean up!
Phil@Bates: . . .
. Sat, Jul 20, 11:00AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [441 ] We think 35....
Harry
Edmon: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:00AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [442 ]
QUESTION:
What is the composition of the Martian soil? Dave, auditorium: . . . .
Sat,
Jul 20, 11:01AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [443 ] Pathfinder, living is
better
than the alternative. PathFinder: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:01AM PDT (-
0700
GMT). . . [444 ] Don't Mess up the Auditorium! Michael@KU: . . . . Sat,
Jul
20, 11:01AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [445 ] This hour of the conf.
would be
useful if you had delivered this stuff to the host-sites prior to
today. The
whole point of having this technology is to connect students from
different
places to learn simultaneously...lets live the experiment. Harry
Edmon: . .
. . Sat, Jul 20, 11:01AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [446 ] I mean in the
lesson -
not in reality Mike@KU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:02AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[447 ] We want the recipe for Mars soil????? Dave, auditorium: . .
. . Sat,
Jul 20, 11:02AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [448 ] The results: Kitty
Litter: 36
Salt: 34 Mars: 39 PathFinder: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:04AM PDT (-0700
GMT).
. .
[448 ]
The results: Kitty Litter: 36 Salt: 34 Mars: 39
PathFinder: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:04AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [449 ]
Move
Dave, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:05AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[450 ]
Michael, I don't know if NASA can afford to mail Kitty Litter, etc.
around
the world. But a more serious response will be coming from Dan
Barstrow.
Please wait.
DianeS-Maywood: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:06AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[451 ]
Is anyone from Nathan Hale in Seattle on ;here? We would like to
reach you
CuCMe. What is your system address?
Dave, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:06AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[452 ]
Mike@KU, the recipe for Martian soil is too complicated. The rock
comes from
Hawaiian lava flows and is pounded to the exact granularity of the
martian
soil. In addition, magnetic properties are added.
Harry: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:06AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [453 ]
The comment about materials - what we needed was a list of
materials for the
experiment so we could get them ourselves.
LauraCO: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:06AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [454 ]
Dave, Can the camera show the slides on the screen?
Dave, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:08AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[455 ]
The auditorium participants are now measuring the slopes of slides
of earth
mountains using protractors and viewing from their seats.
Michael@KU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:08AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [456 ]
Dave, Who are you Jay Leno? I was looking more for a list of
materials.
Dave, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:09AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[457 ]
Laura, no, but the slides are on at the Web site.
Michael@KU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:10AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [458 ]
Dave, are you wearing glasses and do you have dark hair...I think
we've got
you here on camera.
Dude: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:10AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [459 ]
We got the slides on NASA TV.
Dave, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:10AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[460 ]
Michael, the response about the Mars soil was serious! Honest.
[Image] JC_Craig: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:10AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[461 ]
QUESTION: Can we get the properties of the Martian soil (size
of
granules, etc.) for possibly making our own? The type of volcanic
rock can
make a difference (pumice, etc.).
Dave, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:11AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[462 ]
Michael, you are watching Roger Stryker on CU-see Me. He is on the
other
side of the auditorium.
Dave, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:13AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[463 ]
Good question JC. I'll check.
Mike@KU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:14AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [464 ]
I have talk window up...after I enter text, what do I do to let you read
the
text
Dude: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:14AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [465 ]
clap clap clap...
Dave, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:15AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[466 ]
JC, I will get you the e-mail address of Dr. Cheick Diarra, Mars
Outreach
Director at JPL. He should be able to help.
[Image] JC_Craig: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:15AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[467 ]
Dave: Unless the soil were extremely magnetic, it seems to
me that
the two primary factors you'd need to know were granule size and
density.
Nick: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:17AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [468 ]
Room=Mars_Discussion&last_read_para=465&back_para=465&pkr=&
dfr=&nad=&v=&Back=&Refresh=&InputText=&Chat=CHAT&handle=Nick
&picture=&home_page=ndalrym@prairienet.o
Dude: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:19AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [469 ]
I'll guess 5 degrees!
Dave, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:19AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[470 ]
JC, a request from Cheick: Please, don't call it Martian Soil.
Everybody
will be calling their congressmen claiming that NASA has been
concealing
information. Lets call it "simulant." e-mail address:
cheick.m.diarra@jpl.nasa.gov
@prairienet.o
[Image] JC_Craig: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:20AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[472 ]
QUESTION: Any conjecture as to why the atmospheric density
of Mars
is so low? Titan is smaller yet has a higher atmospheric density.
lisa: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:21AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [474 ]
hi
[Image] JC_Craig: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:22AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[475 ]
Dave: OK, simulant it is (although that is what they called the
androids in "Blade Runner") [grin].
Dave, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:22AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[476 ]
JC, good question. We will ask it at the QA time. Be patient please.By
the
way, we still have your previous question too.
[Image] JC_Craig: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:24AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[477 ]
Dave: OK... I'll hold on the questions for the time being. By the
way... I was wrong about my "Blade Runner" comment. :)
Dave, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:24AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[478 ]
We are now measuring temp. differences at different locations
around the
auditorium. If you have a thermometer, tell us your temp. Where is it
cold,
hot, etc.
LauraCO: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:26AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [479 ]
QUESTION: Will the rover have a temp probe also?
Dave, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:27AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[480 ]
A message from Cheick to JC: I thought that was Replicant! I am a
NEXUS
myself. Remember Roy Batty? (Grin)
LauraCO: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:27AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [481 ]
QUESTION: Will the rover have a temp probe also?
Dave, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:28AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[482 ]
JC: Answer to your manned exploration question: Not before 2018
[Image] JC_Craig: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:28AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[483 ]
Message from JC to Cheick: LOL!
: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:28AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [484 ]
It's 19-20 deg C here...send the rover to Maine
Dave, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:30AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[485 ]
Laura, Rover question: How will the rover be guided? Answer: Remote
control
by radio beam from earth.
Wondering..: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:30AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [486 ]
Isn't this indirect evidence for the existance of cats. I mean, doesn't
kitty litter strongly imply the existence of cats?
KarenY: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:30AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [487 ]
I'm back after a couple hours of other responsibilities. Temp
downstairs in
my living room: 68 F, upstairs in the computer room: 72F. Outdoors:
82 F
location: Wrightwood, CA 6000 ft elevation.
Phil@Bates: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:31AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [488 ]
18 - 20 deg C in Auditorium here in Maine ....62 deg F outside
[Image] JC_Craig: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:33AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[489 ]
I've lost the NASA TV video feed on CU-SeeMe.
Dave, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:34AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[490 ]
Laura, a correction to our previous answer: Initial vectoring will
come from
earth, but then internal computer chips take over.
Dave, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:36AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[491 ]
Any questions related to classroom activities?
BillBourn: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:37AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [492 ]
You need to send a candy bar to fuel the student's carrying back the
shoebox.
Barbara, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:37AM PDT (-0700 GMT). .
. [493
]
Hello, I'll be monitoring from the auditorium now.
BillBourn: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:37AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [494 ]
You need to send a candy bar to fuel the student's carrying back the
shoebox.
Dude: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:37AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [495 ]
Going to take off now. An enjoyable interaction experience... My
congrats to
Dave and the rest of your crew on this production. It's got to be
pretty
complicated to pull off!
Wondering..: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:38AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [496 ]
A simple cheap device for measuring gravity would be a pendulum of
known
length.
Barbara, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:39AM PDT (-0700 GMT). .
. [497
]
Good idea...signed Galileo!
[Image] TimR@DU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:39AM PDT (-0700 GMT). .
. [498 ]
A computer (PDA) to log it on.
[Image] TimR@DU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:40AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[499 ]
A computer (PDA) to log it on.
Barbara, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:41AM PDT (-0700 GMT). .
. [500
]
Tim R, Another good idea, if you have the funds!
TimR@DU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:41AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [501 ]
GPS wouldn't work on Mars though...
Dude: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:41AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [502 ]
Hi Susan Twitmyer! (if you can see this)
Dude: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:41AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [503 ]
Bye to the rest of you....
[Image] JC_Craig: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:42AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[504 ]
A spring with a known spring constant and a known mass on
the end
would be more effective for measuring gravity... and could be more
compact
than the pendulum.
kosmotron: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:42AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [505 ]
I was just wondering. Exactly how are the fossils going to be
detected when
they land in the "lakebed?"
kosmotron: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:43AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [506 ]
I was just wondering. Exactly how are the fossils going to be
detected when
they land in the "lakebed?"
kosmotron: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:43AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [507 ]
I was just wondering. Exactly how are the fossils going to be
detected when
they land in the "lakebed?"
california: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:44AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [508 ]
I checked the web site that dave gave for getting some of the
materials from
this workshop. button gives me an error that the document contains
no data.
Are we going to have access to ANY materials from today's workshop
that we
could incorporate into our classrooms???????
california: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:45AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [509 ]
I checked the web site that dave gave for getting some of the
materials from
this workshop. button gives me an error that the document contains
no data.
Are we going to have access to ANY materials from today's workshop
that we
could incorporate into our classrooms???????
california: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:45AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [510 ]
I checked the web site that dave gave for getting some of the
materials from
this workshop. button gives me an error that the document contains
no data.
Are we going to have access to ANY materials from today's workshop
that we
could incorporate into our classrooms???????
TimR@DU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:45AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [511 ]
Is the idea to actually make the box, or just to determine what onew
would
put in it?
california: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:46AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [512 ]
I checked the web site that dave gave for getting some of the
materials from
this workshop. button gives me an error that the document contains
no data.
Are we going to have access to ANY materials from today's workshop
that we
could incorporate into our classrooms???????
Barbara, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:46AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[513
]
California, regarding the error on the data, we will get back to you
on that
and try and answer your question.
JenniferSellers: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:46AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[514 ]
california and kosmotron, please refresh using CHAT rather than
RELOAD
button
kosmotron: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:47AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [515 ]
gotta log off... But I will videotape the rest of the conference.
Thanks in
advance....
TimR@DU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:48AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [516 ]
I they are to make the boxes, the actual contents will belimited by
what
materials are on hand. No?
kosmotron: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:48AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [517 ]
to JenniferSellers: Thanks. I tried that earlier and didn't get any
response. Now it seems to be working.
Barbara, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:49AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[518
]
Tim R, Yes, you are probably right about that.
: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:49AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [519 ]
Question: How can I send a message to Leann Martinez at USC?
BillBourn: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:50AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [520 ]
that button of california's is misspelled- try this one: button
Barbara, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 11:50AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[521
]
California, Regarding the sites with information about today's
conference,
you may get information at the following URL's. button and also
quest.arc.nasa.gov/mars.
Barbara, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:13PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[556
] TimR@DU: What program are you referring to? Bob at COSC: . . . .
Sat, Jul
20, 12:13PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [557 ] COSC = Chabot
Observatory & Science
Center, Oakland CA. Thanks! TimR@DU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:14PM PDT
(-0700
GMT). . . [558 ] Barbara: I was asking about the shoebox program.
cyn: . . .
. Sat, Jul 20, 12:16PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [559 ] With the red
rover
project, are the images just transmitted back or are they interpret
by the
computer? How long can the camera cable be? Jay-: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
12:18PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [560 ] How can you get involved in
the Mars
project? [Image] Jay-: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:18PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[561 ] How can you get involved in the Mars project? [Image]
JC_Craig: . . .
. Sat, Jul 20, 12:19PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [562 ] cyn: I think that
using a
cable between Pathfinder and Red Rover would be a big mistake. If it
gets
tangeled, there's nobody there to untie the knots. It would also be
heavier.
Using a transmitter makes far more sense. Kathy - Grand Junction,
CO: . . .
. Sat, Jul 20, 12:20PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [563 ] Carol and I are
back with
tv and computer both in one room. When you are able please post
where we can
get the teacher and student materials that the live participants
have. Also
our video seems to have gotten messed up could we geta copy of this
also.
One more question -- is logo being used with REd Rover, Red Rover? I
know
that it is used to control many lego dacta models and my kids are
really
into logo. Samb: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:20PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[564 ] Is
there some way the pathfinder will measure the light intensity on
the Mars
surface? Is there a simple way for students to measure the same
thing here
on earth? Jay-: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:20PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[565
] How
can you get involved in the Mars project? Lowell, auditorium: . . . .
Sat,
Jul 20, 12:21PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [566 ] Barbara, I'm new at
the
keyboard, can I answer any questions you might have about the
shoebox?
[Image] JC_Craig: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:23PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[567 ]
Samb: Any photographic light meter should measure the intensity of
light on
Earth. If Pathfinder includes a color chart like the one on Viking, you
should be able to compare the brightness of that chart in pictures
against
pictures of the same chart taken in lighting of known brightness.
Jay-: . .
. . Sat, Jul 20, 12:24PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [568 ] How can you get
involved in the Mars project? JenniferSellers: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
12:24PM
PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [569 ] Jay, please use CHAT, rather than
RELOAD, to
refresh. cyn: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:24PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [570 ]
Is
the Lego rover wireless? From the screen shot it was hard to tell.
What will
be part of the kit? Jay-: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:25PM PDT (-0700 GMT). .
.
[571 ] How can you get involved in the Mars project? [Image]
JC_Craig: . . .
. Sat, Jul 20, 12:25PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [572 ] I just saw the
comment in
the Mars Transcript about scientists knowing that they wanted to be
scientists from childhood. I would please ask the teachers to be
careful
when talking to kids about science vs. the teacher's perceived
estimation of
the child's abilities. I had a teacher in high school tell me that I
should
avoid the sciences because I had no grasp of mathematics. I now
have a BS in
physics. (The best revenge is living well). Phil@Bates: . . . . Sat, Jul
20,
12:25PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [573 ] Cyn: I believe that the one
they were
showing had cables..I noticed them in some of the shots. [Image]
TimR@DU: .
. . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:26PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [574 ] I was
wondering about
what other schools have done with the shoebox project as far as
budgeting
for content items. BillBourn: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:27PM PDT (-0700
GMT).
. . [575 ] It looks like the red rovers have umbilicals. It's hard to
imagine that a video transmitter would be part of the development
requirement. BillBourn: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:29PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[576 ] Isn't the shoebox item a newly developed item? If so, there
is
probably no budgetting already done for it. [Image] JC_Craig: . . . .
Sat,
Jul 20, 12:29PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [577 ] BillBourn: As I
mentioned
earlier, umbilicals can be a logistical nightmare. If there is a tangle,
you've got a short tether on your Rover (not so much a rover as a
sitter).
Small video transmitters can be connected with minimal problem...
and can be
made at least as small as the connections for an umbilicus. Lowell,
auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:29PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [578 ]
TimR@DU, In response to your question about the shoebox budget,
that is an
item that is left open for the school or teacher to decide. WilliK
(Karen):
. . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:34PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [579 ] Pardon my
ignorance, but I joined late where can I find a basic description of
the
shoebox/contents? BillBourn: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:36PM PDT (-0700
GMT). .
. [580 ] I think there are suggestions as to what should be placed
in the
exploring shoebox, but the major thrust is to let the actual contents
be
decided by the participating students. [Image] JC_Craig: . . . . Sat, Jul
20, 12:36PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [581 ] WilliK: Your students
determine the
contents of the box based on what they think will help people find
the
location of the shoebox remotely. [Image] TimR@DU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
12:37PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[582 ] Lowell: thanx, I guess :) Steve,
auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:37PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [583 ]
Jay, in
answer to your question about how can I get involved in the Live
From Mars
project, I would say go to the web site using your skills on the
internet
and download or print the materials there and use them in your own
class.
Between the lessons to print and the materials to request, you
should have a
multitude of information to use. Thanks for participating, Steve
rebecca
@ku: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:37PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [584 ] LauraCO
asked
if we need to register somewhere in order to receive materials.
Please
answer, because I want to know, too. Thanks! WilliK: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
12:38PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [585 ] ok. that makes sense. thanks.
Steve,
auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:40PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [586 ]
Willik
(Karen), You do not want a list of articles to be placed into the
shoebox.
You want to ask your students "Which articles do we need to take in
this
shoebox and use on the surface of the planet Mars?" Then decide how
these
materials might be used and whether or not they would be
financially
possible, and useful. Thanks for participating and I hope your class
has a
great time, Steve Kathy - Grand Junction, CO: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
12:42PM
PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [587 ] Carol and I are back with tv and
computer both
in one room. When you are able please post where we can get the
teacher and
student materials that the live participants have. Also our video
seems to
have gotten messed up could we geta copy of this also. One more
question --
is logo being used with REd Rover, Red Rover? I know that it is used
to
control many lego dacta models and my kids are really into logo.
Ireland: .
. . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:42PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [588 ] To Jennifer
Sellers:-
On behalf of the Entire teaching community attending the virtual
conference
here in Ireland today, we congratulate the nASA team who have put
this
Conference, particularly the Virtual section together. We have
several
student viewing the conference on NASA TV and are flying around the
web-site
- I wish you could see their faces. It is our intention here to promote
the
Live from Mars project trhoughout Ireland over the coming months -
Well
Done!!! JenniferSellers: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:43PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[589 ] Ireland: Thanks so much, and you can be sure I'll pass the
kudos
along to the entire team! BillBourn: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:44PM PDT (-
0700
GMT). . . [590 ] I think the shoebox is closer to Earth than that,
Steve.
The students put together a shoebox and send one of themselves
somewhere to
run the observations. The class then tries to figure out where the
shoebox
went. At least that would be the most FUN approach! BillBourn: . . . .
Sat,
Jul 20, 12:47PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [591 ] If your class is
internet-capable, they could list the contents of a shoebox to be
taken to a
site at some other, co-operative site in the world, in Ireland for
example.
Then they'd use the observations to find those locations and compare
them to
their own with the same box contents. LauraCO: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
12:50PM
PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [592 ] The Pathfinder video that was shown
this
morning, was that the whole video or just a portion. If it was just a
portion of the video could you give the address of the location where
I can
purchase the video. Thanks BillBourn: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:51PM PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [593 ] Anyone care to EXPLAIN the difference
between a
scientist and an engineer? Anyone DARE to explain? Joy (Salt Lake
City): . .
. . Sat, Jul 20, 12:51PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [594 ] Hi everyone!
This is
really cool. I'm ready to add Live From Mars to Red Rover, Red Rover.
Last
year we were a beta site for Red Rover, and this year I hope to really
get
connected. We were able to drive others' rovers, but they couldn't run
ours
since our IP address changed so much and the U of Utah disconnects
every 60
min. If I can help you, send email! Steve, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
12:51PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [595 ] Ireland-can I get your email
address?
[Image] TimR@DU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:52PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[596 ] Is
that this WebChat session we see on the left screen display on the
stage
area? [Image] JC_Craig: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:52PM PDT (-0700 GMT). .
.
[597 ] A scientist is interested in knowledge for its own sake.
The engineer
uses the discoveries of science for practical purposes. How's that? :)
LauraCO: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:52PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [598 ] Joy
in
Salt Lake, What is your e-mail address? I could really use your help
next
year. BillBourn: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:53PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[599 ]
Laura - the site for the CD was at button == http:
//aemm.ae.gatech.edu/mgs/mgs.htm I think the video is available
thereabouts
as well. Joy: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:53PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [600 ]
Laura, it's joy.selberg@m.cc.utah.edu [Image] TimR@DU: . . . . Sat, Jul
20,
12:54PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [601 ] A scientist tries to discover
new
information. An engineer uses existing knowledge. BillBourn: . . . .
Sat,
Jul 20, 12:55PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [602 ] Pretty fair
summation, JC. I'd
still like to hear what the panel has to say about that though. JLand: .
. .
. Sat, Jul 20, 12:56PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [603 ] Hi everyone! I'm
really
looking forward to getting connected so that my students can begin
learning
more about science and engineering in thes unique way. Can you give
the
location where I could sign up to acquire the materials for this
program?
Steve C.: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:56PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [604 ]
Definition for scientist and engineer: A scientist discovers what is
already
there, and engineer creates something that never existed before. : . . .
.
Sat, Jul 20, 12:57PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [605 ] Hi. I've enjoyed
the many
technical discussions here, but could we also address the value,
scientifically rather than science-fictionally, of discovering life on
Mars?
I'm so hopeful we will--even if it's just lichen--that I often forget
to ask
the hard questions about it. I'm sure you've considered the
consequences or
lack thereof, however. : . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:57PM PDT (-0700 GMT). .
.
[606 ] Hi. I've enjoyed the many technical discussions here, but
could we
also address the value, scientifically rather than science-
fictionally, of
discovering life on Mars? I'm so hopeful we will--even if it's just
lichen--that I often forget to ask the hard questions about it. I'm
sure
you've considered the consequences or lack thereof, however. KentS: .
. . .
Sat, Jul 20, 12:58PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [607 ] Sorry. That life on
Mars
question was me. Forgot my tag. Harry E.: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 12:59PM
PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [608 ] QUESTION - what gas is being used in the
air bags on
Pathfinder, and has JPL filed an environmental impact statement?
Phil@Bates:
. . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:00PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [609 ]
QUESTION***Is there
any way that we can "lobby" for continued federal support for
educational
programs like this? [Image] TimR@DU: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:02PM PDT
(-0700
GMT). . . [610 ] How many sites are now involved in the Red Rover
program?
[Image] Paul Freedman: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:02PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[611
] I teach Physics at a Secondary school in Bath, England. I have been
dropping in throughout the day and have had a brilliant time. I want
to
thank everyone who has got this amazing project going. Today is the
first
day of our Summer holiday, but when we get back in September I
would like to
get a group of students involved. Do you have suggestions for the
best place
for us to start? Don't forget we are 5 hours ahead of EST! We have
email and
web access at school, we haven't really made much use of it yet, but
I think
this could be a great start and would get students really exited.
[Image]
JC_Craig: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:03PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [612 ] Paul:
Could you use a slightly smaller graphic for those of us on slow
connections? Peggy, auditorium: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:04PM PDT (-0700
GMT).
. . [613 ] Hi Bath, England. In response to your question, what is
your
Email address? KentS: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:06PM PDT (-0700 GMT). .
. [614
] Hi, again. Is there a way we could involve students in discussing
the
value of life of Mars even if it doesn't mean little green men? : . . . .
Sat, Jul 20, 1:07PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [615 ] To Steve
(auditorium) -
e-mail : nhs6416@iol.ie [Image] Paul Freedman: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
1:08PM
PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [616 ] Thanks for your reply. You're doing
SUCH a great
job! I didn't hear, did you say there was a UK URL we will be able to
access
in England in November? (Sorry about that big school logo) WilliK
(Karen): .
. . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:08PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [617 ] KentS, I would
think
the answer to that question would depend on the age of the students
you want
to involve. . . KentS: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:09PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[618
] Karen: I would say 17-18 year-olds. JenniferSellers: . . . . Sat, Jul
20,
1:09PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [619 ] I would STRONGLY prefer that
NONE of you
post images of any kind. I've made this request and have been
summarily
ignored. My reason is that it is distracting to those in the
auditorium.
[Image] Paul Freedman: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:10PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[620
] My own email address is ras@fishpond.demon.co.uk LauraCO: . . . .
Sat, Jul
20, 1:11PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [621 ] For those of you who send
images it
also slows down the response of webchat. [Image] Paul Freedman: . . .
. Sat,
Jul 20, 1:11PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [622 ] My own email address
is
ras@fishpond.demon.co.uk WilliK (Karen): . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:12PM
PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [623 ] Then I would probably approach it from the
ecosystems arena. . .(assuming you teach science) JC_Craig: . . . . Sat,
Jul
20, 1:12PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [624 ] Sorry, Jennifer. I thought
you'd said
it was OK for me to use my little icon. Rosalee, auditorium: . . . . Sat,
Jul 20, 1:14PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [625 ] Hi, Barb and Joy in Utah.
Surely
glad that USU is with us. Rosalee (from Richfield, Ut) here at NASA
HQ.
LauraCO: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:15PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [626 ] Sorry
to be
nosy, Karen. What would you approach from the ecosystem view?
Paul Freedman:
. . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:15PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [627 ] OK - no more
icons!
WilliK (Karen): . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:16PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [628 ]
The
discussion of life (non- little green men)on Mars and its value.
KentS: . .
. . Sat, Jul 20, 1:16PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [629 ] Karen: thanks for
the
approach. I teach literature, however, and would like to balance my
science
fiction readers with some actual science. Again, thanks for engaging
the
issue here with me briefly. WilliK (Karen): . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:17PM
PDT
(-0700 GMT). . . [630 ] Ok, How about approaching it from a
creative writing
stand-point? Can they come up with the arguement for why life is of
value?
BillBourn: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:20PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [631 ] The
panelist is obviously not familiar with the Mars Direct proposal.
Shirley
mentioned one of the facets about propulsion creation from the
Martian
atmosphere. JC_Craig: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:20PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[632
] WilliK: The important part of creative writing is the creative part
of it.
You might ask questions like whether or not we should continue the
exploration of Mars if life of any kind is found and what impact
there might
be if we decide the answer is yes. WilliK (Karen): . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
1:22PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [633 ] agreed. however -- WHY can be
a very
creative question. . . : . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:22PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
[634 ] How can I receive teaching materials/activities like the
packet shown
on TV? KentS: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:22PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [635 ]
Karen:
Good one. And perhaps they can consider how past explorations of
New Worlds
were conducted and evaluate them with an eye toward values for
this
exploration. WilliK (Karen): . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:23PM PDT (-0700
GMT). .
. [636 ] yes. If you use this I'd love to hear how it works out. . .
sound
like fun I may have to modify it for my 9th grade computer students.
. .
JC_Craig: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:26PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [637 ]
QUESTION:
I've just seen how the Red Rover will be steered. What about the
time lag?
KentS: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:27PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [638 ] Karen:
Glad
you like it. Yes, I'll let you know. Thanks for the ideas, and hope you
find
a way to modify it for them. I'm leaving now, so it's been nice
talking to
you. Irving@usu: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:27PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [639
]
Donna mentioned the gyrocompass on Sojourner. Given the weak
magnetic field
of Mars, how will that compass work? Does it still use magnetism?
Irving@usu: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:27PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [640 ]
Donna
mentioned the gyrocompass on Sojourner. Given the weak magnetic
field of
Mars, how will that compass work? Does it still use magnetism?
BillBourn: .
. . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:32PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [641 ] Is there a model
of
the rover available for show and tell? or actual operation?
TimR@DiversityUniversity: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:33PM PDT (-0700
GMT). . .
[642 ] What steps have been taken to ensure that no life from here
(bacteria, spores, etc.) gets to Mars? BillBourn: . . . . Sat, Jul 20,
1:37PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . . [643 ] A gyrocompass doesn't use the
magnetic
field of the planet to navigate. Instead it measures the changes in
orientation of the shell of the compass as it relates to the internal
spinning wheel. The science of it is that the wheel "wants" to remain
spinning the same axis and resists change. The resistance is
measure by the
instrument and you can tell where to point relative to the spinning.
BillBourn: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 1:38PM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .
Phil@Bates: . . . . Sat, Jul 20, 6:15AM PDT (-0700 GMT). . .