Live From Mars was active July 1996-December 1997.
Gayle (London): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:06PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Hi all, time check Gayle (London): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:06PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Anyone lurking for the LFM chat? Lucy(Iowa): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:09PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Lucy(Iowa) Thurs., Sept. 26 5:04 pm Central Daylight Time. I thought I'd try a web chat for the first time and see if I'm successful. Is anyone out there I can chat with? Gayle (London): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:15PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Hi Lucy, I'm in London, ONtario. Are you involved with LFM? Lucy(Iowa): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:16PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Gayle, Hi, I'm Lucy. I live in Iowa and am involved in a Live From Mars project. Are you involved too? Lucy(Iowa): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:18PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Hi Gayle, Yes, I am involved in LFM. Did you participate in the virtual conference in July or how did you get involved? I went to the Washington DC conference in July. It was great. Gayle (London): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:18PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Lucy, I'm a Smart filter (http://quest.arc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/helpers-form-intro.pl) for LFM and have k-2 kids. Gayle (London): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:19PM PDT (-0800 GMT) You are sooooo lucky, unfortunately I couldn't afford to go and I had a wedding of a good friend that day. But I've been reading up on the archives. It sounds super. Lucy(Iowa): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:20PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Gayle, I just met another Smart filter. I think her name is Barb. What exactly is a Smart filter? Gayle (London): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:20PM PDT (-0800 GMT) I'm looking forward to the "kit" and the CD from the conference too. Gayle (London): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:21PM PDT (-0800 GMT) We help filter the questions from the students to the experts. Check out http://quest.arc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/helpers-form-intro.pl Gayle (London): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:22PM PDT (-0800 GMT) How are you participating? Gayle (London): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:23PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Marc said he had an appointment but would try to get back for this chat. Lucy(Iowa): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:24PM PDT (-0800 GMT) So I am a 6th grade teacher and looking forward to the live broadcasts. But I found out from Jan Wee that there probably won't be any live questions and in IA we have the capability to ask live questions via our fiber obtics network. We might not be able to do that so I guess I need to know about how to send and receive questions. I guess I never learned that part. Gayle (London): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:31PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Sorry I took so long, it's at: http://passporttoknowledge.com/lfm/ask/question.html Gayle (London): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:32PM PDT (-0800 GMT) It's too bad that they won't be doing live questions. Did Jan say why? Lucy(Iowa): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:33PM PDT (-0800 GMT) I was involved in a Mars Base project with a fellow Iowan who hooked us up to scientists and engineers from the Johnson Space Center who gave us information about Mars but not about the Global Surveryor or the Pathfinder. During the broadcast students were given an opportunity to ask one question per school. It was all prearranged, but they got to ask their question live. Then we research Mars and followed Mars materials created by Jim Christensen and planned designed and made a model of a Mars Base. Then we used our ICN (fiber optics system) to allow the students to share their projects with other students at remote sites in Iowa. That's why I was interested in Live From Mars. Gayle (London): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:35PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Wow! that's super, it sounds like you're really having fun. What do the kids think? Lucy(Iowa): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:38PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Jan said that the discussion at a break out group in Washington has discussed the problems with Live from Mars. I happened to be at that session. I guess the problem is that few students got their questions answered live and that it took up too much time to try to answer all of them live. I can understand that, but it seems if there were some kind of protocol maybe we could allow some live questions for those who have the capability and answer e-mail etc. through the q & a service. She said she'd talk to the people in charge of logistics etc. I'm glad I don't have that job. Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:39PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Hello Folks I am late getting back from the dentist (sympathy please). I'm going to catch up on the past messages Lucy(Iowa): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:41PM PDT (-0800 GMT) I decided to have a year long theme of Mars so I am integrating into all of my curriculum whenever I can. Our culminating projects will be in the spring, the Mars Base Project and hopefully the Red Rover Red Rover Project. I'm trying to get funding for Red Rover. Wish me luck. Gayle (London): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:42PM PDT (-0800 GMT) If you're kids are interested I have a connection with a gentleman who is "a retired Electromagnetics Engineer that did the lightning protection on the 777. Spent a couple years in Antarctica almost 40 years ago. If any of your children have questions about engineering, antennas, LOGO programming, Antarctica, whatever you know my E-Mail address. Dale Dale R. Reed email@example.com Seattle, WA USA Lucy(Iowa): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:43PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Marc, My favorite time at the dentist was when he told me to bite down and I did. Guess what. His finger was there and I bit down on it really hard. It really was an accident and I apologized profusely, but deep down inside I smiled. Is that wicked or what? Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:45PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Hi Lucy, Hi Gayle, About live questions during the broadcasts. I believe that we will be accepting questions over the net (email and webchat(, but we won't be atempting to bring in more schools via TV signals. The reasoning is that only a very few students get to participate, and it makes the overall broadcast more chaotic and less focused Gayle (London): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:45PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Hi Marc, (the violins in the background are for you :D) glad to have you back - in one piece???. Just think how lucky you are that this isn't CU-SeeMe - I hate it when I'm frozen and have to be seen. The last time I went it took an hour to freeze me and then the dentist didn't have time to do anything so I just got frozen for nothing. Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:46PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Lucy, I think I am strange. I actually find the time at the denstist relxing. I was only getting my teeth cleaned, so there isn't too much pain. And there are no ringing phones or beeping EMail, or other things. So the quiet time to do some thinking is nice. Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:47PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Lucy, I forget what grade you teach. Also, please describe your internet setup in school? Gayle (London): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:47PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Lucy, I love your year-round theme idea your students are really lucky to have you. Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:48PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Gayle,Lucy, Did you see a copy of the LFM Teacher Guide table of contents. I think Linda sent it around on discuss-lfm and also posted it on the Web. Are the activities covered what you were hoping for? Lucy(Iowa): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:49PM PDT (-0800 GMT) How's the weather your ways. I was hoping to particpate and have my students participate in Lunar eclipse activities, but I'm afraid we're way to cloudy. I'm still hoping it'll clear up just at the right time, but.... Boo Gayle (London): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:49PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Marc, If I may digress... I wasn't seeing things when the SF page said "We are Smart Filter of Borg" was I. Did you get my reply to that? Gayle (London): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:50PM PDT (-0800 GMT) The weather here is overcast too, but the last two nights have been beautifully clear and I'm going to check the weather satelite photo now. Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:51PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Lucy, THe weather is clear in Norhtern California. My wife Amy is pregnant so tonight is our birthing class from 7-10. THe eclipse is from 7:15-9:30. So I'm hoping during a break in all of the breathing (hee, hee, haaaa, haaa, hee, hee...that's what we learned last week), we can go outside and see the moon-be-gone Gayle (London): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:52PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Marc, I'm just busy trying to water it down for the k-2 level and find basic things we can do. Lucy(Iowa): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:52PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Marc, I'm a 6th grade teacher. So far we only have one internet connection in our building. I rarely get a chance to use it because we share with the hight school. It is in the plans to get an internet connection per grade level, but it hasn't happened yet. I'm hoping it will before Nov. 19th. but I have my doubts. That's why I thought it would be nice to be able to ask the questions live via our fiber optics system which is operated by Ia Public TV. I do all my interneting at home.. Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:53PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Gayle, I'm not sure about Smart FIlter of Borg. I haven't seen that on the pages yet. I have a lot of work to do in cathcing p with the latest Smart FIlter test. So I haven't seen your note about that. I'm hoping late tonight to play catchup Gayle (London): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:55PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Congrats, Marc and Amy is this your first? I remember our classes, didn't do much good for us due to extenuating circumstances, I won't get into horror stories. Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:56PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Lucy, We try to make the online aspects of the project work for those who do it from home. For example, we hope that once we get good Field Journals coming, then you we'll send them out once/twice per week. You could print them out and bring them to school to share them with your kids. Hopefully they could discuss and come up with a good qeustion or two. THen via email, you'd submit the question and within about two weeks, have a personal reply back. Also there will be other things that might work online without direct (in the classroom) access Gayle (London): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:58PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Marc...so I suppose I'll be hearing about the squash tomorrow, if you're not to "breathed out" Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:58PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Hi Gayle, Have you come up with any good activities for K-2 grade level? As for birthing, it is our first and I'm sure no 5-week class will prepare us. It seems like it is just something you have to live through. In any case, besides me, Amy will have her sister (two kids), her Mom and her best friend. So I'll have plenty of backup in the support and "you're doing wonderful, dear" department Gayle (London): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 3:59PM PDT (-0800 GMT) We've been doing all the Mars parts on the Magic School Bus Explores the Solar System CDRom. And checking out all the other websites and library stuff on Mars. Mostly picture books. Lucy(Iowa): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:00PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Marc, I did look at the contents for the guide. They looked pretty good. I have already used some of the activities this year since I'm doing Mars things all year. I did the Look for Mars in the sky. It's an ongoing assignment. I did the scale sizes and the scaled distances of the solar system. The distance one was especially fun since we did it outside. Oh I did scale it down even more so I could use our football field. When doing a unit on matter, mass, weight and lunar activites I have an old Apple II E program that lets you know your weight on different planets, the sun, and the moon, so I let the students find out what they would weigh on Mars and the moon. When talking about elements and compounds we talked about some of the elements/compounds would be on Mars. And I've used the Great CD-Rom Mars Navigator. My kids love it. By the way I sent away for a PC version of the Viking CD-Rom and haven't heard any more about it. Would you know anything. Wow. Am I talking too much? Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:00PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Gayle, I tomorrow is the goal for more squash info. Lucy, what we are talking about is that Gayle is a Smart Filter who helps process questions that get Emailed in. Right now, to test some new software, we have a test going with questions about squash, monkeys and bananas. Silly stuff, but better then a million "test #15" messages. That would be no fun at all. Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:01PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Gayle, If you find particular CDs good (like Magic School Bus...), you might let Jan know, since she's compiling the bibliography of other helpful resources. Gayle (London): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:02PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Marc, I wish you all the best in that, it is truly a wonderful experience. I have a letter that my dad wrote while in the waiting room, you lucked out being around in this time period, otherwise you could have gotten out of it. (chuckle) I'll let you know what I come up with as soon as I coordinate something coherent about the k-2 activities. Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:05PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Lucy, Fear not about talking too much. I don't really know anything about the Viking CD-ROM....sorry. Your activities sound good. Later in LFM, we will try to get kids to look for Mars and then place in a star chart of the sky. Eventually, after months of doing that, they'll see it start to move backward (retrograde motion) for a while. I've never experienced it myself so I'm looking forward to it. Do you have your students plot it against a star chart? Lucy(Iowa): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:05PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Marc, I have a question. I am kind of new to all this. I know I subscribed to mars-update, but I haven't ever accessed it. How do you do that and what do you do when you get there. It seemed you needed some info before getting on, but I really haven't ventured yet so I've missed it all so far. Maybe I just need to DO it. Gayle (London): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:06PM PDT (-0800 GMT) I will let Jan know. Maybe I'll post something to the digest with what I figure out and find interesting. I have to go now, hubby is at the Gym trying to get his "girlish" figure back again. (I'm supposed to be there too, but this excersise of the brain is more fun at the moment). My daughter Anna is huffing at the door with her coat and shoes on proclaiming just how ready to go she is... catch ya later. Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:08PM PDT (-0800 GMT) By the way, here's something to announce...Saturday Oct 12 is NEtDay in the states Volunteers are supposed to go into classrooms and help wire them for Internet. My group will be providing content which hopefully some of the newly connected schools will connect to. From 11-12 (Pacific), they'll be a live WebChat with Mars experts. From 12-1, it will be with women who work at NASA. And from 1-2 it will be with S/MORE (space biology) folks. Also, from 8-11, it will be with Earth Science experts. So if you are involved at all in NetDay, or if you want to check it out, Sat Oct 12 is the date. More details as they become available Lucy(Iowa): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:08PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Marc, I've never used a star chart. Is there one available I can get my hands on? My watch for Mars assignment is kind of an extra credit one. Maybe I should be more organized about it. The problem is nature doesn't really cooperate where time is concerned. Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:09PM PDT (-0800 GMT) By Gayle. Lucy, you wrote mars-update. Do you mean updates-lfm? What is your Email...I can quickly check it out Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:14PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Lucy, I think that some of the astron0omy magazines have current star charts I just took a quick cruise and didn't find one right off. But I am sure are avaible online. We'll certainly have one availabel as part of what we do, but that won't be until January or so Lucy(Iowa): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:17PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Gayle, If it's not too late. Good bye. Good luck with finding k-2 activities. Marc, How do you get involve in the Oct. 12 event. It sounds very interesting. Our ICN system just broadcast a live presentation titled "Careers for Women in Science and Engineering". My 6th grade girls participated. The theme they used happened to be Antarctica and the women from Iowa State had been there and shared their experiences. I tapped some of my Live From Antarctica materials for my boys who weren't given the opportunity to participate. Of course I related it all to Mars saying they are doing studies there, since some of the climate/environment has similarities to Mars. Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:17PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Here is one place that has a star chart: http://www.ultranet.com/~cwhitney/amongstars.htm But I'm sure there are sources which are even more clear Lucy(Iowa): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:19PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Marc, You're right. It was updates-lfm. My e-mail is firstname.lastname@example.org if you want to check it out. Thanks. Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:21PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Lucy, About Oct 12...more info will be announced over the updates-lfm list and also it will be on the LFM web site under Featured Activities. Also, you might want to get involved in the Women of NASA project. It is all about having NASA's enthusiastic women connect with young girls, to help encourgae and motivate them to stya involved in science. Visit this web site: http://quest.arc.nasa.gov/women/intro.html and also sign up for the maillist. TO do that, send an email to Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:21PM PDT (-0800 GMT) In the messaeg body, write these words: subscribe updates-won Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:22PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Hi Lucy, You seem to be signed up for the updates-lfm list with this email: email@example.com Have you received LFM #1 and LFM #2? Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:24PM PDT (-0800 GMT) If so, then you are receiving the messages OK. The point of the updates-lfm list is twofold. First it will inform you about new LFM opportunities (like the Oct 12 event). Also, we'll share Field Journals there; these are short stories about the day-to-day activities that the various NASA experts experience. The idea is to help you kids glimps the thrill of modern science. Lucy(Iowa): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:25PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Thanks. I'll look it up, but not now. I'm really looking forward to getting the guide. The other lfm advocate in Dubuqe and I are giving a presentation about lfm at the Ia Academy of Science Teacher Convention in Des Moines Oct. 17. It would of course be nice to have the guide by then. Otherwise we'll share the kit materials, which he has. We will use our ICN to plan the presentation Oct. 10. We couldn't really plan it any other way since he lives on the Eastern border of IA and I live on the Western border. My husband just told me the clouds are breaking up and there might be a chance to see the lunar eclipse. I'll be out there trying. Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:33PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Lucy, I'm sorry, I picked up the phone and have to talk for a few minutes. If you can stick around I'll be back shortly Lucy(Iowa): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:35PM PDT (-0800 GMT) I have not received LFM #1 or LFM #2. So something isn't quite right. I have gotten some messages from you, but none that I recall that would indicate they were updates-lfm. Any suggestions what I should do? Lucy(Iowa): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:43PM PDT (-0800 GMT) While you're on the phone I'll ask where in CA you live? I have a sister who lives in Sacramento. She works for the Corps of Engineers. She's mostly in charge of computer programs for the Corps. It's always interesting to hear her stories. Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:43PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Hi Lucy, I will edit your entry so that you get future updates. I'll use your firstname.lastname@example.org address. Also I'll forward you copies of the LFM #1 and LFM #2. So that shoudl work. And within a day or two, I'll send out LFM #3, so if you don't receieveone by then, let me know and I'll investiagte further Lucy(Iowa): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:46PM PDT (-0800 GMT) I wanted to thank you for my first experience at a web chat. I had visions of not being successful. I even told one of my 6th grade students who had mentioned he had done webchats that I might be calling him for help. I'll be happy to report to him that I was successful. He'll be so proud of me. Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:47PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Hi Lucy, I think you'll have the TG by your presentation. Certainly a version will be online by then. I live in Mt.View, which is part of Silicon Valley about 35 miles south of San Francisco. It is a great place to live career wise (every networking company on the planet seems to be here), but it is getting a bit hectic and crowded (never more than 500 yards from the closest 7-11). Anyway, it is nice. Amy's parents live in Sacramento and we really like it there too, but it is sooo hot in the summer Marc (California): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:48PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Lucy, You are a grade A 100% success! I enjoyed connecting with you this way. Perhaps we'll connect here again in the future. Good bye for now Lucy(Iowa): . . . . Thu, Sep 26, 4:50PM PDT (-0800 GMT) Marc, Thanks. Well my stomach is telling me it's hungry. I'd better go eat. It is 6:45 here. And my husband informs me again the clouds are breading up. Maybe we will be able to see the eclipse. Thanks for all your help. And good luck on your breathing lessons. I've never had to do all that. I chose to have foster children from time to time and now I have two lovely grown step daughters whom I've known since they were born. That's the easy way out. But I know you'll have a great experience. Kids are great. Bye now.