QUESTION: By using the in-situ rock field around the Sagan site as a measure of the forces necessary to angle some large rocks all in the same direction, what flood velocity (in miles per hour) and depth would have caused the patterns of rocks we now see there? Did the water go over the twin peaks? ANSWER from Mary Urquhart on August 20, 1997: Some of the large rocks at the Pathfinder landing site do appear to be angled in the same direction. One explanation is that flood waters carried the rocks into those positions. Others are that the rocks are ejecta from a nearby impact crater or even that the large tilted rocks are actually exposed bedrock (perhaps exposed by the flood) and that we are seeing the native tilt (or dip) of the rocks. If the rocks were angled by the flooding of Ares Vallis then the flood would have to have been strong enough to move them into new positions but not strong enough to carry them with along with the flood waters; i.e., the flood would have to have moved the position of the rocks to one of least resistance to the water but without chipping off the sharp edges. This would suggest that the rocks were not moved very far, or didn't move freely in the water (weren't tumbled but may have been pushed along by the flood). Boulders deposited by the catastrophic flooding of the channeled scablands of Washington state (a terrestrial analog for martian catastrophic flood features) are more rounded than the large angled boulders we see at the Mars Pathfinder landing site. Now to answer your question: Flood velocities necessary to change the position of rocks at the Pathfinder landing site including the angle of rocks depends on the size of the rock. Since at least portions of the rocks are buried in sediment, the apparent sizes of the rocks can only be used as a lower limit for the velocity and depth of the flood water. At this early date I don't know the actual size distribution of those angled rocks. Work on the data returned by Mars Pathfinder is just beginning. The first results beyond the very preliminary results we have so far won't be available until at least December. Please remember that understanding the geology of the Pathfinder landing site (like all scientific endeavors) will take time. We have had years of studying Viking data to help us develop our current understand of Mars, including the catastrophic flooding in the area of the Pathfinder landing site. Work on estimating flood velocities from large scale surface features near the landing site was done prior to the landing and suggests that the maximum flood velocity could have exceeded 100 m/s (or about 220 miles/hr) in the deepest part of Ares Vallis which would have been capable of transporting boulders 10 meters (or about 30 feet) in diameter.* By the time the flood waters reached the broad terrain of Chryse Planitia the flood velocities and depth would have decreased. Hopefully studying the images from the landing site will help us understand more about the properties of the flood when the water reached the area where Pathfinder landed. The twin peaks are a few hundred feet high. Images of the twin peaks show some features that have been speculated to be benchs (which can be thought of as water-level marks). If this speculation is correct, then the twin peaks were not completely covered by water at least during a portion of the flood. *For more details see "Paleohydrology and flood geomorphology of Ares Vallis" by G. Komatsu and V.R. Baker in the Journal of Geophysical Research, Vol 102, Number E2, Feb. 25, 1997. Mary Urquhart Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics University of Colorado at Boulder